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Emily Orton
One of the number one reasons people do not fulfill their dreams is because they think they're for others, and so they don't even get started. Today, we're going to talk to Tiffany and Jared Winger, who have gone from dreamers to doers, and they're going to take you on their journey. Welcome to the What Could Go Right podcast. I'm Emily Orton and I.
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Erik Orton
I am Erik Orton.
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Emily Orton
And on the Working Away podcast, we talk about personal growth, family connections and parenting, adult kids. So let's dive in and I'm excited for you to meet Jared and Tiffany.
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Erik Orton
So first of all, Jared and Tiffany, thank you for doing this. And I'm just going to say briefly how we met.
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Jared Wingert
Thanks for inviting us.
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Erik Orton
Yeah, you bet. You bet. We've been looking forward to this. So, Tiffany, maybe you can help me remember, I think you reached out and you you signed up for one of our video courses way back when, and we've kind of kept in touch via email, and then we jumped on a discovery call, had a really fun conversation, and then you guys were off at some retreat, not one that we were doing, but something else.
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Erik Orton
And and after that we reconnected and. And you ended up deciding that it would be fun for us to work together through coaching. And, and we did that last year. And then we all just when we went sailing together in La Paz, Mexico, in December, and then we actually I should backtrack. Before that, you were rolling through town where we live and you were going to an outdoor concert that you invited us to.
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Erik Orton
So we got to hang out in person and your whole family, which was a blast. And then then we went sailing. So were there any highlights in there that I missed?
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Tiffani Wingert
Yeah. I mean, I think the first thing was I read your book and Simon and see and I don't know if you know this part because after that we're like, yeah, we're chilling. Even on the sailboat. And we were talking to some friends of ours and they're like, Yeah, we're going to do it too. We're going to move together on the sailboat.
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Tiffani Wingert
Yeah. And years passed. I kept reading your stuff and.
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Jared Wingert
That was that was the number one goal on our our list of New Year's resolution.
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Erik Orton
No, I did not know that. So you read our book and then you were saying, Hey, let's go to live on a boat.
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Jared Wingert
Yeah. Yeah.
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Tiffani Wingert
So and that's still that's still a possibility on that list. But that was kind of the start. And then I just kept yours, kept passing, and I would read emails or read things you had done, and I read your other book Knock, and you had talked to Jared about it. But yeah, and then I think you had offered a discovery.
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Tiffani Wingert
So I was like, I'm just going to do it. Jared wasn't totally on board. He was totally on board for the sailing and stuff.
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Jared Wingert
She had you visiting with that and I really enjoyed it.
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Tiffani Wingert
And so he's like, I like the sailing part.
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Jared Wingert
Yeah.
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Emily Orton
So that's so fun. What a surprise. Well, tell us a little bit about yourselves, your family, like who you are so our listeners will know.
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Erik Orton
Yeah, we know. But we'd love for.
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Emily Orton
Or about you.
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Erik Orton
Anyone listening to just get a sense of who you guys are.
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Jared Wingert
Great. Well, been married for 20 plus years. We've got seven kids. We live in Washington, central Washington. We've homeschooled our kids for ever since Our oldest was in first grade. Yeah, I've lived kind of as nomads a little bit. We moved around a lot for school, so we were we were in Utah and then South Carolina. Well, Washington, South Carolina, Missouri and then Washington again.
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Jared Wingert
So we've moved around quite a bit. We've really enjoyed seeing new places and meeting new people. And every time we've gone someplace, most places we've been have been far away from family. So that's been a big deals, finding people to connect with and, you know, make good friends wherever we go. But we've been here for about five years and in central Washington.
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Emily Orton
So nice. Anything you want to add, Tiffany?
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Tiffani Wingert
no. I mean, we have one married daughter and a son in law, so that's a new adventure. It's really fun actually, having.
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Jared Wingert
Married.
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Tiffani Wingert
Kids. I mean, you guys have a few new married kids, so newly married.
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Erik Orton
Yeah. We're right there with you.
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Emily Orton
Yeah, we. We are loving it. And I love how you call it an adventure. I definitely see having a family that way. And it's always some new iteration of. Of what our family looks like as we go through different stages. I also love what you were saying, Jared, about living far away from family. For most of your life, you've really been focusing on how to make connections and that kind of connects actually with the the dream that you have that we had that we were talking about last year when we were coaching.
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Emily Orton
Were you kind of tell us your big idea and where it came from?
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Jared Wingert
Sure. It was kind of hard to remember where it came from. If I were kind of reaching back into the recesses of our memory where this all started. When we lived in Missouri, we had land was cheaper there. We had quite a bit of land, and we would have we'd have parties at our house in the fall time.
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Jared Wingert
We'd have this Apple party we invite people to and really enjoyed having a lot of people over and just just having that time to socialize with friends. And Tiffany, I have always had this interesting fight, this balance that we tried to strike because I really enjoy having a lot of people in a big group, and TIFF feels definitely more like me.
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Tiffani Wingert
Yeah, personal connections. And Jared's like, Let's invite 200 people.
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Jared Wingert
Yes. And I have no problem inviting more people. And every time every time I mentioned what's wrong with like in 200 people, maybe it's too many people or that it's from these parties. We can't talk to anyone. So it's always. It's always that you tell me. Planning an event. It's been something like that where we try to find a net that happy medium, that number that is acceptable for both of us.
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Jared Wingert
So anyway, that having, having events like that and then moving to moving here to Washington, we just there was something about the move here that made it made it harder to make friends, felt like it was little more or is a little more of a wall to break. And we just felt there's I don't know what it was exactly, but a lot of a lot of different factors, I guess.
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Jared Wingert
I know some there is a lot of factors that came into play that made it more difficult to develop those friendships. Then it just felt like there's a lot of people experiencing that same thing or it's just a lot more disconnect, a lot more loneliness and.
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Tiffani Wingert
Trying to do our Apple party and everyone kind of sit around looking at each other and we're like, okay, we're going to have to change gears here. This is not Washington.
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Jared Wingert
It's something that's different. Yeah, but along those same lines. So that was that was one track of the of the creation of the dream. And the other was that we've always kind of been drawn towards kind of having a homestead or, or someplace that could be an area of land that people could come to and, and either enjoy a u-pick farm or, or a petting zoo or something like that.
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Jared Wingert
Something that something that was kind of natural and inviting. And so we've talked about buying more land or finding a home that was on more land than that, that we could build something like that. And so these ideas are all jumbled in our heads and kind of at some at some point we just kind of pin me down, say, what are you thinking of?
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Jared Wingert
What What is your dream? What? Tell me, tell me what your I finally put it into words and I like that was.
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Tiffani Wingert
Well, and I think you're not mentioning because you had kind of this dream and he called it his happy place, you know, like he was afraid, like he never actually said it out loud. So we kind of have this in his mind. And then, yeah, finally and I was like, What? Like, tell me what you're talking about. He's like, Well, it's all in my head and it's called The Happy Place.
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Tiffani Wingert
And I'm like, Okay.
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Jared Wingert
Yeah, that was an interesting conversation. Like, I actually like that tree and let's do that. So that was the first time I said it out loud and got a good response that was like, yeah, well that's a good thing.
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Erik Orton
And obviously we know what it is because we've been working with you on it for the past while. But for everyone that's new to it, why don't you take a crack at this? Great. You know, maybe it's the version that you had at that time, or maybe it's the version you have now, but just kind of for everyone listening, how would you describe what the happy place is?
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Erik Orton
Because I know you were kind of feeling your way towards it for a while and then you you said something. You said something out loud.
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Jared Wingert
Right. And that was I think so. Describe what it what I think it is now.
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Emily Orton
Yeah, yeah.
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Jared Wingert
Yeah. So Worthing, is it some kind of venue where people can come to and kind of our focus would be connections to help people make stronger connections growth where they have an opportunity to to improve themselves, learn more, develop some some skills, knowledge.
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Tiffani Wingert
Nature or something with nature gardening.
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Jared Wingert
Or yeah, we keep.
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Tiffani Wingert
Classes from, you know, being out and learning how to do the skill gardening and then cooking for people.
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Jared Wingert
And so the way we classified that third element was peace. So, so connection, growth and peace are kind of our the focus of this venue. And, and the elements of it are still, you know.
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Tiffani Wingert
Fluid.
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Jared Wingert
Yeah, still fluid. I think you.
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Erik Orton
Give us some of the choices on the menu because it's pretty compelling stuff.
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Jared Wingert
So it would have a venue that would be kind of like a barn that would be large enough for like a wedding gathering or a party or family reunion type gathering.
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Tiffani Wingert
We used to do in Missouri some English country dancing, and it was awesome. You could have a ton of people. No one had to know how to do it because there was a caller to just come and they would tell you what to do. And so we thought, that would be fun. Like kids or adults or families could all do something like that.
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Jared Wingert
The full spectrum of age groups would come together and dance together, and it was really kind of cool. So something like that was we drew a lot of inspiration from places that we visited. So there's there's a glamping place near Bear Lake that comes to the ranch that we went to. That's really cool. We did a trip that in Maui and we we found sheep tickets but couldn't find a place to stay.
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Jared Wingert
And so we decided we were going to camp on the beach in Maui and found this little private campground camp all along where we met some friends and have really strong connections there. So we developed some good friendships over the course of a week just because of the environment.
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Tiffani Wingert
Well, and I think that was one of our big ones, because you had all these separate tents and random people from all over the world and at night everyone would come back from touring around and you'd have the parents cooking dinner, getting their fires ready, and all the kids would be in this main kind of common grass area playing whatever game they made up to play.
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Tiffani Wingert
And their parents would sit in on the fire and talk while the kids played. And we just thought, Man, we didn't know any of these people. Three days ago. And even now I still know Marco Polo. Some of them my my youngest has a friend and actually ended up not living far from us. But that was kind of one of the biggest ideas, was just how can you have these strangers after a couple of days you just really connect and it's like family and you have this strong community.
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Tiffani Wingert
And so that really influenced. We want to do something like that here and trying to figure out what is that and.
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Jared Wingert
How I felt like. So there's several other places that became our inspiration that gave us some ideas, the elements with one another. So other elements that we would include would be, like you said, a kitchen that we could have cooking classes as well as it would double as a restaurant that people could come to and have a different kind of restaurant experience where either you're cooking the dinner together or you're meeting, sitting at tables with strangers and getting to know people that you didn't actually come with.
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Jared Wingert
And there would be a stage where there can be performances and live music. And we always will, always love. Music has been a big part of our lives and we really enjoy, you know, kind of outdoor concert feel, a natural playground for kids walking gardens that kind of give you that sense of of peace and connection to nature and area to meditate or to have that time to just think and ponder.
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Tiffani Wingert
And since we've been clients with you guys and we've learned how to dream big, we're not sure how to incorporate this, but Jared's a waterfall guy, so somehow he's convinced regarding the waterfall and the.
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Jared Wingert
Property.
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Emily Orton
I'm into the waterfall. I think it's going to be a huge draw. Everybody's going to want to get their picture taken there. It's going to bring a lot of peace. There's want people like to sit under the waterfall and meditate like that's a thing. So anyway, I'm in favor of the waterfall.
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Jared Wingert
We're probably moving water that just brings that sense of peace.
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Erik Orton
And and so I think to maybe gives to to kind of create a picture of one of the ways that I know we've talked about it is for anyone that that knows where we live in Salt Lake, there's a place called Thanksgiving Point that is has been a bit of an inspiration. That's big grounds, lots of events throughout the year.
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Erik Orton
There is a waterfall. They do music, they do music, they have concerts. Another was, you remind me, the name of the farm in Missouri that you kind of drew some inspiration from.
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Jared Wingert
Yeah, it's the I'm going to mess up the name, but it's the Agriculture Association for Agriculture or or the Columbia Association of Urban Agriculture or something like that.
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Emily Orton
Yeah.
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Jared Wingert
And so.
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Erik Orton
There's that. There's Thanksgiving point. There's what's the what's the concert venue out near you guys that we talked about the the gorge.
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Emily Orton
The gorge.
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Erik Orton
Anyway so I mean because you're trying to do something that in some ways is I don't want to say it's totally unprecedented because there are people that have done similar things. But, you know, you're you're you're finding your way towards describing a vision for something that's a little bit elusive. And and I think you guys have come so far and I want to talk about where you started and where you've gotten to.
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Erik Orton
But I think just just for everyone, it's because the four of us are so familiar with it. I'm trying to help people that are listening get a capture the vision, because I guess the point that I'm trying to get at is it's really ambitious. What you're describing is really ambitious. It's it's multifaceted. It involves people and connection and experiences, but it also involves real estate and it involves operations and funding and probably, you know, some municipal level to it.
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Erik Orton
And there's just a complexity to it that I think has has made it feel large, which I think has a lot of great things about it. It's a big, daunting goal, but it also is something that is big enough that it's going to need the help of a lot of people to pull it off, which makes it inspiring, I think.
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Emily Orton
Well, I think it's as big. You have this big heart and at the heart of it, it's very simple. It's to fight loneliness, right? It's just to connect people. And so keeping that center makes all this other stuff, administrative stuff, you know, that's just kind of the details required to get there.
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Erik Orton
So. So let me go back because this is something that you sat on for a while. Like this is something that your years that you had in your mind, you wanted to do it and you kept saying, we should. We should, we should, but there was not a lot of movement. So so talk to us about that. And then kind of what got you what got you going?
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Jared Wingert
Well, like you said, daunting is a good word. Paralyzing is, in other words.
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Erik Orton
Spoken like a true anesthesiologist.
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Jared Wingert
Okay. So this really the size of it, just like, okay, are we doing it? Do this on a small scale. Do we make it somehow different? Yeah. Not knowing where to start or how to how to tackle something this this big let's I'm like, okay, what? How do I do this? What do I do? And I'm not I'm probably not the right person for it.
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Jared Wingert
All these, all those negative self-talk kind of ideas kind of came into play.
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Tiffani Wingert
Well, I made that for being totally practical. How it started was I had heard you were doing coaching and I was like, Jared, I think we should do this. And he was like, No, if they cut the price by half, we'll do it. And I think you just said that knowing you would never do that.
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Jared Wingert
I didn't think either.
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Tiffani Wingert
This is my out right now. I could do it for this price and.
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Jared Wingert
Help me out here.
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Emily Orton
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I.
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Erik Orton
Know you're a half price guy. Told me. You told me.
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Jared Wingert
I told you that?
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Tiffani Wingert
Yeah. He was like we were at this retreat because we kind of had these ideas and my really moving forward Elementary Tree and St George just a couples thing. And it was actually for people that were trying to start retreats and wanted to practice.
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Jared Wingert
And so we had.
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Tiffani Wingert
People come and my sister was a friend of theirs and said, Hey, you might want my sister, She's looking into doing something. And so they let us come and all. We were there trying to figure out when this me how we want to set up this thing. You we saw that you had posted like half price for this coaching.
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Tiffani Wingert
I was like, they're like, there it is. We've got we're raised and that's and honestly how it started and Jared I think was like I'll just appease her and we'll do it.
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Jared Wingert
We'll get on well I mean yeah so temporary done the navigator framework and I hadn't but I really enjoyed the reading the book and you know I thought sure let's, let's try it. I know I believe that mentoring and coaching is an excellent tool. I just didn't have my I'd never done it.
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Erik Orton
So most people never have. Most people haven't.
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Jared Wingert
And yeah, kind of, kind of have my doubts. Like what? What? You know, what what good is it going to do that I can do myself? What value is it somewhere else out of my out of reading the book or watching watching a podcast?
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Emily Orton
Absolutely. I totally get that. So then we met up and we started talking. And what were some of the first steps that you felt like really were getting traction for you? Some of the things that you guys did?
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Jared Wingert
Well, I mean, we started at Ground Zero with you guys, and so it wasn't when we started asking us to do the blue sky and dreaming and choosing an island, it wasn't like we had already focused on that dream to be our island. We had a lot of different ideas and things that, you know, we got we got other dreams too.
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Emily Orton
So yeah, no. And I feel like you stuffed a lot of them into the happy place.
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Jared Wingert
Where we're such.
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Erik Orton
A cheater.
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Jared Wingert
Or.
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Tiffani Wingert
Afraid to say that out loud. Like, this is huge. Like, if I say it out loud, we're going to have to work on it.
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Jared Wingert
And I think be accountable for it.
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Tiffani Wingert
So, yeah, I guess. One, Do you remember the biggest stuff that we were both like, what, that you guys invited us to do?
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Jared Wingert
Well, it wasn't it wasn't probably our second or third time meeting where you said, Hey, why don't you? What would be the next step? What do you need to do to get this figured out? And I think we had a couple ideas what you said. What if you contact an engineer, a civil engineer, and ask him what it would take, what?
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Tiffani Wingert
What is some plans, Drama?
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Jared Wingert
What does the land need to look like and what can we drop some plans for? You get an idea on. So we're like, yeah, sure, let's do it. But I think you might seemed a little bit surprised that we were ready to just say yes to That seemed like a big ask. And they were just saying consider what a big ask it was.
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Tiffani Wingert
But and then the engineer said no, very politely. Well, it isn't like, that's.
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Jared Wingert
The shortened version of the story. We had an appointment that they forgot about and then the and then we contacted you.
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Tiffani Wingert
Does not have credibility at that point.
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Jared Wingert
That's true. He's like, well, you guys won't even have a lot have a piece of land that you're talking about. No, we kind of went to an idea of what land needs to be, and he's like, Well, that's not really my step in the process, so come back later. But he sent us a nice email that gave us some good information.
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Jared Wingert
So it was like, listen, if you do this outside of city limits, these are the kind of things you'll need as far as water and and fire control. And that's a big deal. So if you do something outside them, it's it's it's going to be it's going to be a big investment. If you find something inside city limits, you can use the sewer and you can use their their fire abatement system.
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Jared Wingert
Then, you know, that's kind of got us looking at other maybe different areas that we weren't considering before.
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Tiffani Wingert
Wanted kind of told us who to talk to next because up until that point with us.
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Jared Wingert
A lot of the things that working with the two of you helped us with, with just having someone that was accountable, that we knew that we were going to be getting back on a Zoom call with you and you have to answer for what we've done. So it's helpful to have that kind of level, that motivation and and the challenges that you came up with saying, okay, once you want to try to envisage your next great scheme, create a vision board, that would be, well, something that you can look at.
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Emily Orton
I think it turned into a did it turn into a slide decks that you could share or PowerPoint?
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Jared Wingert
Yeah, that's going to be it wasn't going to sit on a vision board my and so we did a slide a Google slide presentation that had some of the inspiration and ideas and principles it focused on. And that was great. Just having that tool really firm up in my mind and be able to communicate in pictures to other people what we're thinking of.
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Jared Wingert
It's still best tool with people. That has to be what is it you want to do that here, let me show you. This is this will give you an idea.
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Tiffani Wingert
When you get you started sending it to people and I feel like that led to other people saying, well, you should talk to so-and-so or you should never find it. The Parks and Rec department, you should talk to them and.
00:23:31:09 - 00:23:50:10
Jared Wingert
Yeah, so a friend of mine that I mentioned this dream to and the vague state so that he knew someone on city council had mentioned doing some similar projects and I kind of knew this person on City Council would reach out to him through a text in June. Actually, it was right after we started working. He was okay.
00:23:50:12 - 00:24:02:06
Jared Wingert
I don't know if that was one of your challenges or one of the things that I decided would be a good step to take texted him. Tim was real proud of me. Yeah. Yes.
00:24:02:08 - 00:24:04:07
Erik Orton
She she's a real accountability buddy.
00:24:04:09 - 00:24:05:10
Emily Orton
Yeah.
00:24:05:12 - 00:24:29:06
Jared Wingert
Right. And then I didn't hear anything back for months and just thought maybe I just assumed too much or, you know, all these negative self-talk ideas came in, and then at some point in the conversation that became the next step again is like, I'm not going to get anywhere unless I do something with see what it was.
00:24:29:08 - 00:24:51:03
Jared Wingert
So we reached out to we've we met the chief operating officer of the Polynesian Cultural Center because he actually lives close to us. And and I sent an email to him and shared the the slide presentation is like, well, what does the city have anything like this already in the works? That would be a good thing to know.
00:24:51:05 - 00:25:13:09
Jared Wingert
The first thing he said was, Wow, you have like you did. But yeah, so he he was going out of town for several weeks and said, you know, maybe you should just look and see what the city is doing. So I said, okay, I need to reach back out to my city council contact and see what see what, what's going on.
00:25:13:09 - 00:25:30:23
Jared Wingert
And I texted him. He never received my first text and now it's October. So it's a few months. Four months later, four months later, I finally followed up on the text in response to him and he was all excited like, Yeah, we're working on something that is along similar lines and we need something like this in the community.
00:25:31:00 - 00:25:44:05
Jared Wingert
You know, why don't you come to the city council meeting this tomorrow and we'll talk afterwards? And so we had a good conversation and he put me in contact with the Parks and Rec director and then.
00:25:44:07 - 00:25:58:03
Tiffani Wingert
Well, I know we should say here too, where we live, their land is super expensive and there's just not land in the city. It's there's land outside the city that has really tight restrictions on it. But there's not land.
00:25:58:06 - 00:25:58:16
Jared Wingert
For.
00:25:58:20 - 00:26:09:23
Tiffani Wingert
Yeah, for anything. So we kept saying, okay, we're moving forward with this, but this can take a miracle. How in the world are we going to find a place to put this? And then that's kind of where this guy comes in.
00:26:10:03 - 00:26:31:20
Jared Wingert
Yeah. So I so I reached out to the Parks and Rec director and shared our dream with him as well. And he was excited about it too. It's that I've been wanting to do something like this for ever since before I've been working with Can, with Parks and Rec and said I have this piece of land that we're not using right now, and we've been trying to figure out a good use for it.
00:26:32:01 - 00:27:00:20
Jared Wingert
And it's right by the river and it's in the it's in this park. Part of the park is being utilized in this other part of the park is just not in use at all. It's kind of rundown. There used to be some structures on it. And so so me and Tiff and the city council member and the Parks and Rec director all planned a time that we could meet together on this piece of land to talk about what what possibilities could could take place there.
00:27:01:02 - 00:27:03:02
Jared Wingert
And it was a really cool experience.
00:27:03:02 - 00:27:11:20
Erik Orton
I remember you texted us pictures from the location. I think you may have been there or had just been there recently. And I'm chair remember where I was because I feel like it was.
00:27:11:22 - 00:27:13:01
Emily Orton
I think you were on a sailboat.
00:27:13:01 - 00:27:13:15
Erik Orton
I was I was.
00:27:13:15 - 00:27:24:12
Emily Orton
I was at home and I and I got these little videos of like looking at the property and it just, like, completely blew my mind. No matter how many times I see the process going from what you called the vague state, which I love.
00:27:24:12 - 00:27:24:23
Jared Wingert
The vague.
00:27:24:23 - 00:27:40:23
Emily Orton
State to the vision state, which is where we were talking about to this, like we're standing on a property that could be where this happens with people we could partner with to make it happen. And that was like in a course of less than half a year.
00:27:41:00 - 00:27:47:11
Erik Orton
And they're telling you, I've been wanting to do something like this since I since I joined the city council. And we have we're yeah.
00:27:47:11 - 00:27:50:12
Emily Orton
Like our community needs this.
00:27:50:13 - 00:28:06:08
Jared Wingert
Yeah, yeah. It's, it's everywhere we turn. We just saw people that were supportive and excited and, you know, giving us good, good advice and good direction or saying they want to jump on board and be a part of it. So it's just really encouraging.
00:28:06:10 - 00:28:12:23
Tiffani Wingert
And then really soon after that, we talked to a guy from Missouri. The church had mentioned that his kind of done something and.
00:28:13:03 - 00:28:13:23
Jared Wingert
That same day.
00:28:14:04 - 00:28:15:12
Tiffani Wingert
It was the same day, the.
00:28:15:12 - 00:28:33:09
Jared Wingert
Same day were on that property, I actually had to move my appointment phone appointment with him so that I could go to that property to meet their schedules. And like I told them while we were meetings, I'd actually have a conversation with someone that's done something very similar to what we want to do. It's a little bit different in the the, the reason why.
00:28:33:10 - 00:28:48:04
Jared Wingert
Yeah. Or the menu items that are on that, but very similar in the structure and format, they're like, that's awesome. If we can find someone that's done something, we don't need to reinvent the will. We kind of follow a similar pattern that they've done in a similar community.
00:28:48:04 - 00:29:02:13
Tiffani Wingert
So as we talked to him and he pretty much emailed us every form and file he had of how he started three how to do a grant, how to just everything. And he was so willing to help.
00:29:02:13 - 00:29:31:05
Jared Wingert
And yeah, so he's in Columbia University, Missouri is there. And so they used the university as a great resource. Their advertising department, they, the students in the advertising department, put ads together for them and he shared those and he shared the storyboards and the ads with us, like this is how this is how you can present it to the community to make it appealing or even just just to clarify what it is.
00:29:31:07 - 00:30:08:03
Jared Wingert
He also shared their whole write up. It's like a 30 page right of the grant proposal. So so many great resources and just we talked with them for over an hour, getting some good advice from his where how he started and became you know I don't know what you call it. It's a $5 million project at this point where it just built structures and used to use the city property, built their own structures and made this place for communities together and do a lot a lot of different activities, some very similar to what we want to do.
00:30:08:05 - 00:30:28:00
Erik Orton
So I'm not sure how to phrase this question, but I kind of want to have a conversation. I want you to help me have the conversation between your current self for the guy that was there on that day and your former self that was not ready to just say it out loud, even to your wife. You know what?
00:30:28:00 - 00:30:37:22
Erik Orton
What would those what would what would you guys be saying to each other, that version of you and the former version of you?
00:30:38:00 - 00:30:49:06
Tiffani Wingert
And the first thing that popped into my head is money doesn't matter like that was I feel like our biggest thing was how in the world are we going to pay Like we don't have all this extra money to buy land and build a building?
00:30:49:06 - 00:30:51:21
Jared Wingert
And it sounds like something you'd have to be a multimillionaire.
00:30:52:00 - 00:31:14:03
Tiffani Wingert
Yeah, we just always thought, those people can do that. And this was I think our current self is like, we have no idea still how we're going to pay for this. But we've realized that once you start, once you kind of get in that current, you just meet people and somehow someone volunteers a piece of land, like have a piece of land.
00:31:14:03 - 00:31:15:09
Tiffani Wingert
Why don't you use this?
00:31:15:09 - 00:31:17:10
Jared Wingert
And you can look at this.
00:31:17:12 - 00:31:33:15
Tiffani Wingert
Reminder, you know, it's just and so I feel like that was a huge obstacle to get over was just throw that out and just don't work on that part yet. Just work on like, what would you do? The possibility of it?
00:31:33:19 - 00:31:56:23
Jared Wingert
And I feel like I kind of vacillate between the old version of me and the new me still day to day. And some days we all do. I feel like I still feel like this is how can this really happen? Even though I've had so many good experiences along the way and so much encouragement, I still have days where I just like still we're still a lot a long way to go, a lot to do.
00:31:57:01 - 00:32:10:06
Jared Wingert
Tip of the messy middle. That's kind of where we're not. We've made a lot of connections. We've we've come a long way, but we're definitely aren't into, you know, breaking ground or building a structure yet.
00:32:10:12 - 00:32:33:05
Tiffani Wingert
But I think one of the wins and we had shared it with you and Jared met with the CEO of the Polynesian Cultural Center that he at the end of it, Jared was like, well, if I send you a nonprofit, will you be on my board? And he was like, Yeah, just depends on where I'm at. You know, I live in Utah where I'm at.
00:32:33:05 - 00:32:44:05
Tiffani Wingert
But yeah, call me when you're at that point we were kind of both just like, really? Like what isn't even we don't even have an engineering drawing of a plan yet. And you're like, Yeah, I'll be on the board.
00:32:44:05 - 00:32:45:08
Jared Wingert
And yeah.
00:32:45:10 - 00:32:49:17
Tiffani Wingert
And he and maybe in his mind he's like, I probably won't be around. So I not.
00:32:49:17 - 00:32:50:18
Jared Wingert
Sure, like the.
00:32:50:20 - 00:32:56:14
Tiffani Wingert
US still willing to push us forward, like, you know, not hold us back.
00:32:56:16 - 00:33:18:04
Jared Wingert
So yeah, I talked with him for an appointment for about an hour and a half. You kind of gave me his history in the whole history of the Polynesian Cultural Center and how it came to be and some of the challenges they face and how he could see, you know, glean some some wisdom from from his experience. And that's really cool.
00:33:18:06 - 00:33:46:13
Jared Wingert
But other than vacillating back and forth between the old me and the new me, I think I'm definitely more I've always been, I guess, spontaneous at times and tough to you kind of dance each other out and or or I guess moments of spontaneity. But I definitely some of the evidences of what we've how we change this I know that we were talking about your sailing trips and how it would be fun to do that.
00:33:46:15 - 00:34:07:09
Jared Wingert
So it's like, that was so cool. And we went to lunch and that said, I want to just ask you why. Why not let's, let's really consider doing this? I think this would be really fun. You think it'd be really fun? I, I think maybe we can make it happen. But I mean, before we were just, you know, it was one of those things that we were just say, that would be fun.
00:34:07:09 - 00:34:08:08
Tiffani Wingert
Someday we'll.
00:34:08:08 - 00:34:09:13
Jared Wingert
Do that. Yes.
00:34:09:15 - 00:34:11:00
Emily Orton
Yes.
00:34:11:02 - 00:34:23:13
Jared Wingert
You know, but that and, you know, there was another big trip that we took to Guatemala as a communitarian trip. That would be we hit a lot of obstacles along the way that could have been deal breakers.
00:34:23:13 - 00:34:30:23
Erik Orton
And those two trips were pretty close together. Like we said, we were insanely in Mexico. And then I think you were home for a few days or maybe a week, and then you took your next trip.
00:34:31:00 - 00:34:40:07
Jared Wingert
Yeah. Which was another reason we're like, we couldn't. Yeah, yeah. We've got this Guatemala thing coming up. We can't go to Mexico two weeks before next.
00:34:40:09 - 00:34:42:02
Tiffani Wingert
And Christmas and all this.
00:34:42:02 - 00:34:45:12
Erik Orton
So we can't let our life get to awesome.
00:34:45:14 - 00:34:55:07
Jared Wingert
Right? Right. So there's a lot of things that we just stop saying no to and just let's start saying, Well, why not? What I did say, what could go right.
00:34:55:09 - 00:35:14:22
Tiffani Wingert
And asking ourselves, do we really want this like something? I think we would say, but we really didn't want it. And other things, it just kind of helped us be like, okay, do we really want to do this? If we do, then let's go for it. We might not make it, but let's just go far and see what happens.
00:35:15:00 - 00:35:50:19
Tiffani Wingert
And it's it's opened up a lot of opportunities, I feel like and we had talked about this earlier too, just with our family. For me, Jared has all the phone calls and all the emails to people. That's not my thing. And so for me, probably the biggest change was just our family. I every January or so, New Year's Day, at least since we've been here, we go to this really remote camp in the cabin that doesn't have anything except a wood burning fireplace and we would do New Year's goals.
00:35:50:19 - 00:36:06:23
Tiffani Wingert
And so when I started doing the Navigator's trademark, I did that with my kids and my family, New Year's Day, and it was okay. Like they had a hard time writing Real Dreams Down and then they wrote some things down. But then a few years later.
00:36:07:04 - 00:36:08:14
Jared Wingert
They weren't thinking big.
00:36:08:16 - 00:36:28:23
Tiffani Wingert
No, it wasn't thinking about. I was like, Learn to catch a football. And that's great. Like for little kids, that's a big deal, you know? But it for me, it just wasn't anything really inspiring. And some years later, it was when we were working with you guys and kind of talking to them about the happy place and these things we wanted to do.
00:36:28:23 - 00:36:46:12
Tiffani Wingert
Then I did this activity again and I was like, All right, let's let's sit down and write all your dreams. I don't eliminate anything. And they had some bigger dreams, and it was just really cool to see how our family was changing because of things that we were trying to do.
00:36:46:14 - 00:36:52:13
Jared Wingert
And I think the kids seeing us follow through on some of our dreams that gave them permission or.
00:36:52:15 - 00:36:53:02
Tiffani Wingert
Yeah.
00:36:53:06 - 00:37:00:22
Jared Wingert
Good example to follow or this is the just the feeling of the culture was different than the homes.
00:37:01:00 - 00:37:22:15
Erik Orton
Guys. That's huge. That's huge right there. And and whenever I when Emily and I talk about this, we talk about it as double return parenting because you guys are doing the things that you want to and it's specific to you. It's not like Emily and I don't have a desire to create the happy place you do, and but you're doing the things that light you up.
00:37:22:17 - 00:37:31:15
Erik Orton
And as you do in, first of all, you're building credibility with yourselves. You know, at least that's been my observation is that you went from being dreamers to doers.
00:37:31:15 - 00:37:33:03
Jared Wingert
And I mean, those those.
00:37:33:03 - 00:37:36:15
Emily Orton
Were your words. You told us that's how we've changed. We do the stuff now.
00:37:36:16 - 00:37:59:11
Erik Orton
And as you've done that, I see your credibility and confidence with yourselves increasing. Not that you weren't unconfident people before. You guys have been amazing all along and this is just a complete level up. And then to see it rippling out to your kids and seeing them feel like, what, what, what else could I do or what, you know, how could I go bigger or.
00:37:59:13 - 00:38:03:03
Erik Orton
And so, first of all, thanks for sharing that.
00:38:03:05 - 00:38:28:20
Emily Orton
I actually want to bring it back to that also, because these things you're talking about like four months between getting a text message back or following up or some of the steps are going to be really long arcs right? Cultivating a relationship with the parks or the city council like it's going to be there's going to be some time between, like you said, when you're actually breaking ground.
00:38:28:22 - 00:38:57:09
Emily Orton
And so we talked about how sometimes that it's exciting to get that email or have that conversation, but it sometimes feels like we aren't really doing anything. And so I remember Eric had invited you guys to another challenge so that you could feel that one on one connection or create an opportunity for neighbors to connect prior to the complete and full realization of the happy place.
00:38:57:09 - 00:39:09:21
Emily Orton
So could you tell us a little bit about that, what the challenge was, how you felt about it, and how your whole family got involved, and then sort of how it played out for.
00:39:09:23 - 00:39:34:02
Jared Wingert
Well, we mentioned it to one neighbor who is very, very outgoing. We wanted to get some people in the neighborhood together. And he was like, yeah, I think I could I could help with that if, you know, I won't lead it out, but I'd be willing to help. And we mentioned to you guys in a Zoom call, and that's when Eric said, Yeah, I think you should do it.
00:39:34:06 - 00:39:37:20
Emily Orton
Set a date When when can you do it.
00:39:37:22 - 00:39:42:00
Jared Wingert
And do it? Have don't have to.
00:39:42:02 - 00:40:00:20
Tiffani Wingert
We asked we say to do this neighborhood party and a couple neighbors we had talked to Hina shot down our ideas like who is what. I believe this person has a huge I got to go there and they're like, no they're not going to be willing. And so we're kind of thinking, okay, what could we do? We haven't lived here that long.
00:40:00:22 - 00:40:24:03
Tiffani Wingert
So then Jared kind of enlisted other neighbors, like, let's just the neighbors. We know that. We know their emails and talked to them and they all had really good ideas. And so we planned a couple of them had this cul de sac. So we plan to do it in this cul de sac on the certain day. And the kids and I and Jared went out and passed out fliers.
00:40:24:05 - 00:40:26:03
Tiffani Wingert
How many houses do you think?
00:40:26:05 - 00:40:27:00
Jared Wingert
About 100.
00:40:27:02 - 00:40:52:11
Tiffani Wingert
250 fliers goes to like just on their doors. And we talked to people along the way. If they're outside and put some up on our mailboxes and things and then just had people help, you know, some people did chairs, some people did table, you know, just different parts of it. We we didn't want to be the ones that were I don't know what the word like, look at the window.
00:40:52:11 - 00:40:58:20
Tiffani Wingert
It's what they're doing. So we put our other neighbors phone number as the one to RSVP.
00:40:58:22 - 00:41:00:19
Jared Wingert
Also, because it doesn't really enjoy phone calls.
00:41:00:20 - 00:41:03:15
Emily Orton
Very good. Well, yeah, you to play to your strengths.
00:41:03:17 - 00:41:11:06
Jared Wingert
Well, how did you get that? You wanted to you want to be the the person that to take the hours to be. He's like, So I was.
00:41:11:08 - 00:41:14:18
Tiffani Wingert
Like, yeah, I'll do it. Because her house was in the cul de sac. So I just seemed more.
00:41:14:18 - 00:41:17:07
Jared Wingert
She seems to know a lot of people in there.
00:41:17:07 - 00:41:36:15
Tiffani Wingert
Yeah. So anyway, then the day of the event, it was just potluck. We just said, Come bring something to share. We had some games and some portable firepits and we really thought no one is going to come except the people on this email that are bringing something. But that was.
00:41:36:15 - 00:41:44:08
Jared Wingert
Wrong. Yeah. What did we say? It was 160 people that showed up and over 100. All right.
00:41:44:10 - 00:41:45:15
Tiffani Wingert
Now I think over there.
00:41:45:17 - 00:42:00:07
Jared Wingert
Yeah, it was over 100 people that showed up and everyone was just really excited to be there. And there was at least, I don't know, ten other homes that said, we can't make it that night or so glad you're doing this. We really want to do it again. Let us know in the next one is.
00:42:00:07 - 00:42:18:05
Tiffani Wingert
And they all said they've been waiting for like we've been wanting to connect with people, but we didn't know how and everyone was just really enthusiastic about it. And by the end saying, okay, when's the next one? When are we doing a spring fall? Or, you know, like as if it's just going to happen every twice a year.
00:42:18:05 - 00:42:24:21
Jared Wingert
And so, yeah, so spring spring's just around the corner, so we need to start planning the next neighborhood party.
00:42:25:02 - 00:42:29:05
Emily Orton
yeah. I'm like when is it? Well, let's put it on the calendar. Let's get the flowers.
00:42:29:07 - 00:42:47:05
Erik Orton
Okay. That actually brings me to a question that I want to ask, which is, you know, Emily mentioned that there has been some gaps between some of the bigger steps and there's a lot of steps still to take. And and, you know, and we work together for a chunk of months, but there's still a lot of ground that you guys want to cover.
00:42:47:07 - 00:43:16:22
Erik Orton
And so I think you talk to us a little bit about how you how you feel like you've got staying power with this process, because a lot of times it's easier for us to get going. I mean, this podcast will probably air like mid-February and that's like the graveyard of New Year's resolutions, you know, like six weeks. And so everyone else, you know, everyone that's made a New Year's resolution, they have some momentum and some there's enthusiasm getting out of the gates.
00:43:16:22 - 00:43:22:23
Erik Orton
And then, you know, halfway through your winter, you're like, you know, whatever. And and you're just.
00:43:23:00 - 00:43:24:20
Emily Orton
Halfway through January.
00:43:24:22 - 00:43:50:08
Erik Orton
Okay. Yeah. For the for the long haul. New Year's resolution, people, February is the graveyard of of dreams. But but, but you guys are, you know and we I don't have the up to the minute latest from you guys but talk to us a little bit about how you've the steps you've taken and the processes that you have that are helping you continue to move forward even after we've we're not we're not doing a few sessions together.
00:43:50:12 - 00:43:55:03
Erik Orton
You know, we're happy to be here today. But anyway, can you talk a little bit about that?
00:43:55:05 - 00:44:20:08
Jared Wingert
You sure? Yeah. One of the things that I think you guys helped us create was a pattern of having a a weekly business meeting. And so we would every, every Sunday we wouldn't have a business meeting, but we'd put it on the calendar like what would day this week is now where I am. I wanted to make it a regular Tuesday.
00:44:20:08 - 00:44:29:03
Jared Wingert
Wednesday at this time, just know our schedule doesn't work like that. We just need to make sure look at look at the week from the beginning of it and then put it on that stuff.
00:44:29:04 - 00:44:31:20
Erik Orton
So you have an appointment to make the appointment?
00:44:31:22 - 00:44:32:11
Tiffani Wingert
That's right.
00:44:32:12 - 00:44:53:01
Jared Wingert
I know every every Sunday we make an appointment for some time that we're going to have a discussion that week whether it's going out to lunch and talking or just having having time when we're dropping off kids somewhere and we take 20 minutes to discuss what what each of us is working on and how that's going.
00:44:53:03 - 00:45:14:18
Tiffani Wingert
And I think I mean, maybe this is a little more of what's next, but we've just been recently talking about this plan is a multiyear plan. You know, this is going to take a long time. And in the meantime, we were saying this neighborhood party was so fine, maybe we need to think of a portable version of this that we can practice.
00:45:14:18 - 00:45:36:03
Tiffani Wingert
And so I feel like that's even though we're still working on the big picture, this is like a little or one that maybe we can see results more. And so we're kind of thinking, you know, how could we make this portable that other neighborhoods could do it, that you don't have to have a big venue? And maybe we kind of work on that while we're working on this other big.
00:45:36:08 - 00:46:01:09
Jared Wingert
Yeah, because we're definitely we're definitely still in the creation process of content. We get this kind of thing. You what, what is going to be the content of it? What's going to make it different? What's going to make people want to come here and connect where they don't connect to the city park What's what's different? So So we're definitely still developing that and having, you know, just educating ourselves.
00:46:01:09 - 00:46:27:15
Jared Wingert
I think moving forward where education is a focus, making sure that we're learning how to build these kind of things, connecting so education, connection, connecting with people that are are in the same frame of mind and have similar dreams that we can we can incorporate with and that are supportive and, you know, help us, help us build something.
00:46:27:17 - 00:46:51:12
Tiffani Wingert
Yeah, I think just talking about it kids that going because even just last night I was at an event and tell I don't know how it came out but I was telling a lady there about it and she was like, my gosh, we're trying to put together something and she has a autistic child. And she said, There's a whole group in our community that's so isolated, we can't do anything in the community.
00:46:51:14 - 00:47:11:20
Tiffani Wingert
And if you can incorporate that in your happy place a way that was safe for know special needs or autistic family members to go and not worry about their safety or not worry, you know, have different sensory things. And so that kind of got me to thinking like, we hadn't really thought about that group or the community and.
00:47:11:22 - 00:47:36:15
Jared Wingert
Same guy, same thing. When I was talking to the CEO and he's he's retired and he's he sees this need for people that are are retired the elderly population that they don't you know they don't have this sense of connection or this this this place for connection. And you know I think when we started this, it was we were all thinking about how can we help families be more connected.
00:47:36:15 - 00:48:02:21
Jared Wingert
That's the stage of life we were in. We have families and work. That was our focus. Okay, what what can we do to strengthen families? And that's I think that's still important. But we're learning so many other subgroups, different pockets that of people that we hadn't considered before as as being in a special need bracket, I guess, or something like that.
00:48:02:22 - 00:48:11:08
Jared Wingert
So see, there's there's definitely a benefit for a wide spectrum of populations.
00:48:11:13 - 00:48:40:21
Erik Orton
So as you're meeting, the two of you meet weekly and as you continue to talk about it, new ideas for how it could evolve, open up. It sounds like you're meeting people that can, additional people that can help or resources, and just that it continues to grow, even though there's there's a lot that's what I'll call underground. That's just, you know, the root systems are building themselves and you may not have a lot of above ground just yet, but but it's continuing to get nourished.
00:48:40:23 - 00:49:05:03
Emily Orton
But I also think this is so genius, what you're talking about, essentially taking your block party and creating some kind of template that you can replicate in other neighborhoods around the area. First, it's going to be hitting that dream of helping people connect immediately. And it's also can they kind of train them up to be doing those kind of things?
00:49:05:03 - 00:49:27:23
Emily Orton
Right? And then as you are in the community doing this work, it will just be the natural and obvious progression as the happy place emerges and unfolds and rises from the dust, from the riverbank, and that everybody will know what it is like At the same time as you're serving them, you're helping them know what to expect in the future.
00:49:27:23 - 00:49:53:17
Emily Orton
So to it's all this like fully integrated, like adding value the whole way through. And it's also like preparing your client base or your community based to, to be ready to receive what you're building for them and this larger, this larger way. So I just think it's it's so genius. You guys are on such a good path.
00:49:53:18 - 00:49:55:00
Jared Wingert
Well, thank you.
00:49:55:01 - 00:50:21:03
Erik Orton
Okay. So, so here's it. And maybe we kind of start to wrap things up with this question. I, I asked you earlier about the conversation that you might have with current. You version of you and previous version of you. This is another duality question. What's the difference in the feeling between talking about it and doing it?
00:50:21:05 - 00:50:22:18
Jared Wingert
00:50:22:20 - 00:50:34:00
Erik Orton
How does that feel in your in yourselves, perhaps in your relationship, in your home you know, just talk about that because both have both have challenges.
00:50:34:01 - 00:50:56:19
Jared Wingert
Yeah. I would say for me, whenever I shared this dream multiple years ago and and to bring it up to it, what are we going to do about this? And I would you kind of just give me a sense of dread or haven't done anything about it. I don't know what to do about it. So just the feeling of probably only to talk about it.
00:50:56:21 - 00:50:57:21
Tiffani Wingert
I didn't share with.
00:50:57:21 - 00:51:02:06
Jared Wingert
You didn't want to be held to.
00:51:02:08 - 00:51:41:11
Jared Wingert
So doing it, you know, definitely be of assistance for me, a sense of confidence that, you know, that we are moving forward made steps and this is starting to become an inevitability, an inevitability, a lot of syllables. It's inevitable that something will happen. Some will some fruit will be come to bear from from these efforts, though, it's after talking with so many people, I've got a lot of a lot of connections that are helping and keeping me accountable that, you know, and tonight's my first Parks and Rec meetings where I'm going, Hey.
00:51:41:13 - 00:51:42:02
Emily Orton
All right.
00:51:42:02 - 00:51:52:22
Jared Wingert
So, you know, that's one of the things that we're working on to help move. And that's and so that's a that's a fun step.
00:51:52:22 - 00:51:55:05
Erik Orton
I want to hear how that goes.
00:51:55:06 - 00:51:57:10
Jared Wingert
Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:57:12 - 00:52:32:08
Tiffani Wingert
It's like official now. I think, too, I keep telling Jared and even not just with this dream, but even just saying yes to other things along the way. Like I feel like we're just becoming more of our true self because like Jared said, he would just dread it before. And now when we were in Guatemala and he was working with these groups of people and he was just so alive, I feel like he just fell in love and I feel like that's that's what it's like whenever we start to feel stuck or frustrated.
00:52:32:08 - 00:52:49:21
Tiffani Wingert
We know that we've kind of gotten off the path a little bit like, okay, we're starting to let doubts or whatever creep in. And and when we're actually doing it, it just feels more like who you're supposed to be. Like you're letting your real self come out and just be alive.
00:52:49:23 - 00:52:57:08
Jared Wingert
You know, it's about growing into that potential that, you know, you have, and sometimes you're still stuck and don't know how to get there.
00:52:57:10 - 00:53:11:01
Erik Orton
That's so great, guys. That's so great. I have a quote that I want to share that you sent me from Christopher Reeve, but I think we might want to end there. And so before we get there.
00:53:11:05 - 00:53:12:18
Emily Orton
yeah. Is there anything.
00:53:12:20 - 00:53:15:05
Erik Orton
Else that you want to ask or anything else that you guys would.
00:53:15:05 - 00:53:28:03
Emily Orton
Ask? Like, what advice would you give to someone with the big vision? But no map for how to get there? Maybe you were counseling them. They came to you.
00:53:28:05 - 00:53:41:02
Jared Wingert
My advice would be to share it, you know, to share it with with people that can encourage you and and be a kind of a cheerleader.
00:53:41:05 - 00:53:41:16
Tiffani Wingert
The kind.
00:53:41:16 - 00:54:07:15
Jared Wingert
Of. Yeah, definitely a cheerleader for sure. But also kind of a personal trainer. You know, I think that's how I saw you guys as we're working with you as our personal trainers, like, you know that you're going to go mostly physique and also. No, no. But also just you held us accountable. We knew that we had that appointment.
00:54:07:15 - 00:54:46:04
Jared Wingert
We knew that we were great take. I think you can do something. We can push you to do something more. So I think that was so helpful as far as our growth was just to get us in the habit of doing it and also encouraging us to take the next step was big steps, believing that, you know, you can we could do big steps and then having having that appointment that, you know, we're going to come back and we're going to talk about what you've done and then you're going to be and even when we felt like we hadn't done a whole lot, you guys were so great to find those those little wins that
00:54:46:06 - 00:54:50:06
Jared Wingert
you guys were little things that we didn't consider a really big deal.
00:54:50:06 - 00:54:54:14
Tiffani Wingert
To talk about this week. We haven't done anything. And when we're talking to like, you know.
00:54:54:15 - 00:55:00:12
Jared Wingert
That's all you lie. It's the little things that we do, like coming out of school.
00:55:00:18 - 00:55:04:14
Emily Orton
Well, you could tell like that the mindset was shifting. You know.
00:55:04:16 - 00:55:25:18
Erik Orton
And it's so easy. And Emily and I struggle with this, which is why we even we have coaches from time to time because we are blind to our own progress. So often. And I think one of the things that the four of us talked about this is Dan Sullivan, who's an author and teacher and he talks about the gap and the gain.
00:55:25:19 - 00:55:45:00
Erik Orton
And so often we're looking for when we're the ones that are doing it, we're looking forward at all the things that are yet to be and yet to be done yet to be resolved, yet to be figured out. And we very seldom look backwards and see how far we've come. And sometimes we just need another person who's not us to point out, hey, turn around and see how far you've come.
00:55:45:02 - 00:56:07:06
Erik Orton
And we loved being that for you guys to be like, you know, you know, we haven't talked for a few weeks and we get in a session really look at all the stuff that you've done because it's it's just hard for us is we're the same way. It's hard for us to see all the progress. And you guys just did such a an amazing job and and you made it easy.
00:56:07:08 - 00:56:07:19
Emily Orton
You get to.
00:56:07:19 - 00:56:08:08
Erik Orton
Find those.
00:56:08:08 - 00:56:33:00
Emily Orton
Nuggets. It's so awesome when you're willing to work together because then you have that built in accountability. Buddy. Right. I loved how you said it was great to get on to, like, get the vision laid out, start to crystallize it a little bit, get a vision lock and develop the habit of accountability. So I love in the time we're like, we can keep working with you, but we also you have these habits in place.
00:56:33:00 - 00:56:50:14
Emily Orton
We call them setting your autopilot, right? You have set it up so that you are self propelling right between each other and then now all these other people that you're in contact with who share the vision. So that's so fun. I love I love it.
00:56:50:16 - 00:57:28:04
Erik Orton
And and I'll say this, that also one of the reasons we wanted when we invited you guys to talk, you were kind of like, we haven't done anything yet. You know, you haven't finished, you haven't finished the big thing. Well, I'll say two things. Hopefully what we hope everyone gets out of coaching with us or, you know, whatever we share is that you guys get some, you know, you have something, a system or some skills that you can apply over and over and over again throughout your lives on different things that you want to do, because I know the happy place is in your only dream.
00:57:28:06 - 00:57:44:02
Erik Orton
And you guys have said you have other ones. And and the idea for all of us is that once we do one thing, we feel capable and confident to do the other thing and then then the other thing. And that it's never just a one off. It's kind of like like you said, you know, I love the personal trainer examples.
00:57:44:02 - 00:58:04:13
Erik Orton
Like the goal isn't to just get in shape. Once the goal is to get in shape and stay in shape and become stronger and agile and flexible so that our bodies can do more and more things. And so so I think, one, that this will just be the first. And the other thing I was going to say is that you're not there yet.
00:58:04:16 - 00:58:09:16
Erik Orton
You talked about it being the messy middle and did you have something you wanted to chime in with?
00:58:09:18 - 00:58:29:12
Emily Orton
I was just going to say that you talked about everything we offer, whether it's in coaching or not. I mean, for me, even the reason that we named this podcast, what could go right? So even if somebody sees it but doesn't listen to it, they will take away like a tool they can use just by reading the title is like, What if I thought about that question for a while?
00:58:29:12 - 00:58:35:22
Emily Orton
Like, even if they don't peek inside, we're trying to be like, offer a little something.
00:58:36:00 - 00:58:54:11
Erik Orton
So, Tiffanie, you sent us this quote and I can't remember, I don't have the text in front of me, but I have the picture of the quote. But it was kind of you'd had a win that day. And so you might need to refresh my memory, but it says so many of our dreams at first seem impossible. Then they seem improbable.
00:58:54:12 - 00:59:08:02
Erik Orton
And then when we summon the will, they soon become inevitable. Christopher Reeve, the original Superman. So first of all, I love that you have this written up. It looks like on a board in your home is like, is that right?
00:59:08:04 - 00:59:08:21
Jared Wingert
Yeah.
00:59:08:23 - 00:59:19:04
Erik Orton
And what does this quote mean to you? And and, you know, how does it help you and your family?
00:59:19:06 - 00:59:19:16
Jared Wingert
I don't know.
00:59:19:16 - 00:59:44:04
Tiffani Wingert
It feels like it's exactly our journey because in the beginning it was just like, we have this crazy idea. It'll never happen, but maybe we'll just, like, do something. And then it, you know, as we move forward, it was just like, okay, probably something will happen. You don't know why, but probably something will happen. And now we don't even doubt it.
00:59:44:04 - 01:00:08:21
Tiffani Wingert
I mean, the vision may change because I feel like you have to be able to adapt. But now it's just like we know. We know something's going to happen with this dream because we're doing things. We're going to make it happen. And I feel like everything's just kind of that way in life that you just you just have to change, I guess.
01:00:08:21 - 01:00:35:00
Tiffani Wingert
Believe in yourself. You just have to believe that you can really do that if you want to. If that's something, whatever it is you want to do, just make it happen. Once you put those steps in place, then it's just like a snowball effect. It just starts rolling and you really can't stop it at this point. To move on though, about this, and it would be hard to actually go back and like, never mind.
01:00:35:00 - 01:00:35:16
Tiffani Wingert
We decided we're.
01:00:35:16 - 01:00:37:17
Jared Wingert
Not doing this.
01:00:37:17 - 01:00:40:07
Erik Orton
You're strapped to the front of this train.
01:00:40:09 - 01:00:40:17
Jared Wingert
Right?
01:00:40:19 - 01:00:42:06
Tiffani Wingert
Yeah, It's going.
01:00:42:11 - 01:00:43:09
Jared Wingert
It's like there's no.
01:00:43:09 - 01:00:43:21
Tiffani Wingert
Breaks.
01:00:43:21 - 01:00:51:12
Erik Orton
So I love the snowball. That's great. Thank you. Tiffany. Jared, any any thoughts from you?
01:00:51:14 - 01:01:27:17
Jared Wingert
Too many, I think I've talked too much, but it's you know, it's been a it's been a great journey. And I'm really grateful for all the inspiration and the encouragement from you guys. You know, it's it's been great to be able to just incorporate this pattern into our lives of of seeing embracing a dream, making it become a reality and to see the blessings that that flow from from the realization of that, those dreams.
01:01:27:19 - 01:01:28:22
Jared Wingert
Awesome. Is there.
01:01:28:22 - 01:01:45:10
Emily Orton
Anything. Yeah, I just I mean, here at the end, you're you're on your way or you're underway or you're moving forward. What, are there any ways that people listening could follow or support you or is there any way?
01:01:45:12 - 01:01:57:08
Tiffani Wingert
What we think right now is we're like, we got to figure out a better name than the happy place can. It's taken too many times online, so I could get misspelling, or at some point we'll have the actual name that.
01:01:57:10 - 01:01:58:02
Jared Wingert
Yes, but people.
01:01:58:04 - 01:01:59:11
Tiffani Wingert
Can us.
01:01:59:13 - 01:02:00:04
Emily Orton
The happy people.
01:02:00:04 - 01:02:01:01
Jared Wingert
With.
01:02:01:03 - 01:02:01:16
Emily Orton
Okay.
01:02:01:17 - 01:02:03:07
Tiffani Wingert
Well, I.
01:02:03:09 - 01:02:08:00
Emily Orton
Yeah the happy place that I.
01:02:08:02 - 01:02:11:07
Jared Wingert
Have most things on Instagram under.
01:02:11:09 - 01:02:12:07
Tiffani Wingert
Way are way.
01:02:12:09 - 01:02:13:00
Jared Wingert
Way.
01:02:13:01 - 01:02:13:19
Emily Orton
When you're way.
01:02:13:19 - 01:02:29:18
Tiffani Wingert
Our neighbor we want to do that a little bit more. It's just when we do stuff like that, just post cause several people contact us, right? Can you show us how to duplicate that and redo it? I'm like, Yeah, we should make that a form together or something. So.
01:02:29:20 - 01:02:31:19
Jared Wingert
So yeah, I think that's probably what.
01:02:31:19 - 01:02:37:12
Erik Orton
We, we have a huge following in central Washington, so we're doing.
01:02:37:14 - 01:02:38:02
Jared Wingert
So now.
01:02:38:02 - 01:02:55:11
Emily Orton
We're yeah, hey, but we will definitely put that we'll put winger way in the shownotes. So if anybody wants to reach out and say I have some expertise or I know someone who does or I'm a retired civil engineer and this is my dream, like I don't know what's going to happen. Yeah, we can just like put it in there.
01:02:55:11 - 01:03:10:09
Emily Orton
If you're listening and you want to join the fight against loneliness, then like help Jared and Tiffani figure it out. And then they can duplicate the plan and send it to your town, right?
01:03:10:09 - 01:03:15:11
Jared Wingert
Yeah. Yeah. Any artist out there want to create a rendering? I'll send your slideshow.
01:03:15:12 - 01:03:15:22
Erik Orton
01:03:16:01 - 01:03:16:12
Jared Wingert
Yep.
01:03:16:17 - 01:03:17:04
Erik Orton
I love it.
01:03:17:06 - 01:03:19:22
Emily Orton
Artists, architects?
01:03:20:00 - 01:03:25:19
Erik Orton
Yeah. What do you need? How are the. Let's make. Let's make the wish list right here. What do you need help with? Artist's rendering.
01:03:25:19 - 01:03:28:05
Emily Orton
Contractors.
01:03:28:06 - 01:03:29:15
Jared Wingert
Right.
01:03:29:17 - 01:03:32:21
Emily Orton
Yoga instructors, cooking teachers.
01:03:32:23 - 01:03:34:22
Jared Wingert
So, yeah, they're going to have all.
01:03:35:01 - 01:03:36:02
Tiffani Wingert
These little things with.
01:03:36:02 - 01:03:46:12
Emily Orton
Glamping experts, maybe hashtag wanderlust, influencers who want to come speak at your glamping ground.
01:03:46:14 - 01:03:49:00
Tiffani Wingert
Or want us to come try out.
01:03:49:02 - 01:03:50:14
Emily Orton
100%.
01:03:50:16 - 01:03:54:01
Erik Orton
There you go. Yeah, we'll have.
01:03:54:03 - 01:04:01:14
Jared Wingert
You will have the audience come and do a special presentation there on when it's built. Yeah.
01:04:01:15 - 01:04:02:09
Emily Orton
By the waterfall.
01:04:02:09 - 01:04:08:05
Erik Orton
We just want to be at the ribbon cutting ceremony and get, get a free cookie or something.
01:04:08:07 - 01:04:14:22
Emily Orton
Now we're excited. I'd be. I'd love to come speak there. Come to Central Washington, the fulfillment of the dream.
01:04:15:00 - 01:04:36:05
Erik Orton
Guys, thank you so much for having this conversation. Thank you for being an inspiration to us. It's just been a joy and a delight to watch you go on this journey, and we've been honored to be at your side through part of it, and we know there's a lot to come, but really it's been fun, you know, zooming like this through, through coaching and sailing with you guys.
01:04:36:05 - 01:04:51:22
Erik Orton
We had a great time in Mexico and now talking. And so I hope that our our paths continue to cross, that we stay in touch and anything that we can do to help get the word out about what you're doing and and whether in any way just know that we're on your team were cheering for you.
01:04:52:02 - 01:04:57:22
Emily Orton
Yeah. Let us know and you can when you get your website up you can post this podcast episode on there.
01:04:58:00 - 01:04:59:03
Jared Wingert
That's right for sure.
01:04:59:06 - 01:05:00:05
Tiffani Wingert
We'll do the follow up.
01:05:00:05 - 01:05:02:00
Jared Wingert
And the perfect.
01:05:02:02 - 01:05:04:09
Erik Orton
Hey guys, thanks for listening. What could go right?
