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Erik Orton
We are delighted to sit down today with Lance and Christy Walker, who are an amazing couple with their four kids who left the United States and moved to Belize to buy and fix up and run a jungle resort. We are delighted to hear from them directly from Belize. If you don't know where Belize is, it's a three hour flight south of Houston or if you're in Cancun, Mexico, a six hour drive south of Cancun.
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Erik Orton
It's its own little country. They'll tell us more about it, I'm sure, but we are delighted to sit down with them today. Welcome to the What Could Go Right podcast. My name is Erik Orton.
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Emily Orton
My name is Emily Orton.
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Erik Orton
And here we talk about personal development, family connection and raising adult kids or parenting adult kids. So Christy and Lance, great to be with you today. Thanks for tuning in from the jungle. I'm just going to turn it over to you. I'm going to turn over to you for a second to just give us the overview and then we'll start peppering you with cool questions because we're excited to hear what you've got to say today.
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Erik Orton
So I'll let you guys take it for a few minutes.
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Chrissy Walker
Sounds great. All right. Awesome. Thank you so much for having us. We're excited to share a little bit of our story and it has been quite the journey that we've been on. Being here in Belize. It's been really a dream come true for us. It's been the culmination of so many different things over the years and was a very purposeful decision for us to chase our dreams, live true to who we are, and not let fear hold us back from what we really wanted.
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Chrissy Walker
And it has definitely been a wild ride. A lot of ups, a lot of downs, a lot of things where we sometimes look at each other and say, Did that.
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Emily Orton
Just happen like.
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Lance Walker
This? Our lives just.
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Chrissy Walker
Really our life. Yeah, it's been amazing. We my background personally is I'm a designer and a general contractor and we together as a couple, bought and renovated several homes and then rented out those homes short term on Airbnb. And we just loved that. We've had a lot of businesses over the years. We found that was the one that we really felt so alive in and loved specifically to do together.
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Chrissy Walker
And that was always the goal was to be able to work together.
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Chrissy Walker
And do you want to give your background?
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Lance Walker
Yeah. So first I'll just tell how we got connected. So a mutual friend connected, Eric and I, and I read a little bit about Erik and Emily's story and loved it. And I, I love the idea of sailing around the world, maybe someday for us, but more than that, it was just. It was just the idea of, wow, my current life isn't really what I want it to be or what I expected.
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Lance Walker
And I'm feeling kind of burned out with it. I'm going to go chase this other dream that really matters to me and that I know is going to be fulfilling even if I fail. And that was that was what connected me to your story, Eric and Emily. And and essentially what, you know, what started off this new friendship.
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Lance Walker
So thank you for having us. My background. I'm more of a business generalist then a serial entrepreneur and done several ventures over the years, but we just kept coming back to every time that we worked together on a home renovation or build or things like that. That's where we really connected as a couple and enough that, you know, we put the kids to bed and instead of popping up in Netflix, we would pull up in a floor plan and just pour over it together and get excited about which walls to move and where the furniture would go in the home.
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Lance Walker
And and so that was a passion of ours. And then health and wellness also became a passion of ours. So Chrissy has the BRCA two gene mutation, which gives her a very high chance of breast cancer and ovarian cancer during her lifetime. Our son at seven years old started having seizures. So what people call grand mal or generalized seizures had his first one at school and the doctors told us, just got to put him on medicine.
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Lance Walker
This isn't going to go away. And we were able to find a different way to help him through lifestyle and diet choices. And so and then I've been an athlete for my whole life. So this idea of health and wellness and adventure and being able to really influence the outcome of your your life and your health span is important to us in both physical and mental health.
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Lance Walker
So those are important parts of us. And we've we've seen challenges even this year and how important it is for us to continue doing those things in life that help us to keep our heads on straight and keep our health and our vigor so that we have the energy to do what we need to do.
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Erik Orton
That's so great. I love that. Both the fact that you discovered how you enjoy working together. Emily and I, we like just picking painkillers is like a major drama for us.
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Emily Orton
And so we use these.
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Chrissy Walker
Like.
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Emily Orton
Clean wine glass plates that look like paper plates because we could never really come to a decision on what.
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Erik Orton
Should this chair be angled that way or this way. You know, we can't work out well.
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Emily Orton
But here's what I love. You've found so many places where you have overlap and then you've just leaned into that and said, I think you figured out what a lot of people don't realize is that your environment influences so much the life you live and the habits that you have. And if you want to form different habits so many times the quickest way to make that adjustment is by changing your environment.
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Emily Orton
And when we were living aboard, I think we were at the island of you. Stasia When we met this woman who had started her family in Texas but moved to Stasia because her son was diagnosed with autism, and they wanted to medicate him. Just kind of like what you're talking about, different situation. And so she was like, Why don't we move to a place that has less of these, like, challenging sensory inputs?
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Emily Orton
And he has really been thriving in the mainstream classroom there just by going to a place where they entire lifestyle and culture was just a little more simple, a little more relaxed and a little less distracting.
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Lance Walker
And wow, I love that.
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Emily Orton
As.
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Chrissy Walker
Yes, our environment. That's your role. Yeah.
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Erik Orton
And I, I definitely want to come back to that because we're in like we were literally the doctor yesterday with our daughter Lily, trying to go down a similar path to what you're talking about.
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Emily Orton
Yeah.
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Erik Orton
And helping her get healthy without a lot of the more dramatic interventions that a lot of times get proposed.
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Emily Orton
We had to leave the allopathic path and go to something a little more functional that looks at what specifically going on with you and what are all your triggers then. So we're yeah, we're all about to embark on that journey.
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Erik Orton
We're vibing clearly. Okay. When we first talked initially, Lance, you shared a little bit about the business that you were running prior to COVID, which was a graphic design and signage business, and yet it wasn't fulfilling. It wasn't the thing you wanted to be doing. And but, but that business and how it played out, especially through COVID, I think led in some ways too, to what you're doing now.
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Erik Orton
And if that's if that's the case, you know, just we'd love to hear that story. Yeah.
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Emily Orton
So tell us about the turning point.
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Lance Walker
Yeah. So we there's kind of this overarching thing that I feel like has been a theme in our marriage and in our life. And we heard this this story several years ago. It's kind of the Chinese parable of of a man that has a horse and everybody in the town comes and is like, Wow, this horse is so amazing.
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Lance Walker
You have the best horse. And and then the horse runs away and everybody comes and says, man, that's so terrible. That's the worst thing that could ever happen. I can't believe this happened to you. And he says, maybe it is, maybe it isn't. And as time goes on, the horse comes back and brings other horses with it and everybody in the town comes by and says, Wow, that's amazing.
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Lance Walker
Now you have five horses, we can't believe your fortune. And he says, Well, maybe it is and maybe it isn't. And then as he's training these wild horses, one of them stomps on his son's leg and breaks his leg and maims his son. And everybody comes by and says, that's the worst thing that could ever happen. That's so terrible.
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Lance Walker
I'm sorry this happened to you. And again, he says, maybe it is, maybe it isn't. And then, as his son is, is trying to heal from his injury, the Imperial Guard comes to town and says, We're taking all able bodied young men off to war. Many of you will die. But we need to protect our our nation. And and then, you know, they all go off to war and everybody comes by and says how fortunate he is that his son doesn't have to go off to war.
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Lance Walker
And he says again, well, maybe it is and maybe it isn't. And so this has been a theme for us throughout our marriage and throughout our life. And I think you've hit on the one that for me has been the hardest. I put a lot of time and effort, energy. I made a lot of sacrifices, a lot of sacrifices from Chrissy and from our family for me to be away from them and financial commitment to that company.
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Lance Walker
And and I built it up to the point that it was profitable. We had we had, you know, seven figure revenue and six figure profit in 2019. And I felt like, I finally felt like you know, finishing a marathon. And I was just kind of handing off the baton to my partner who was going to run the company and Christy and I were going to work on her software company together.
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Lance Walker
And then three months later, COVID hit and it it. Long story short, it just never recovered. I tried to rebuild it through other people. I just I didn't have the energy to get back in and do it myself. I didn't have the passion. And so from that point forward, it was.
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Chrissy Walker
Well. And during that same time I got pregnant, my fourth pregnancy and I have something called hyperemesis Gravidarum during my pregnancies, which is just this horrible sickness throughout for about 30 to 34 weeks. So I was pretty much bedridden for about four months and our house burned down. So actually the exact.
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Emily Orton
Same and yeah.
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Chrissy Walker
And our house burned down. So it was you.
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Erik Orton
Tell me that you tell me that your house burned.
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Lance Walker
Down. I don't know. I told you that part.
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Chrissy Walker
it was really, really scary.
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Emily Orton
Like, was this a good thing or was this a bad thing?
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Chrissy Walker
Yeah, that actually. Yes, that was so true.
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Emily Orton
So it's like a blank canvas.
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Chrissy Walker
Three days after Christmas, I woke up. I found out I was pregnant, so we knew this horrible sickness was coming and Lance was going to have to really carry our family through this time. And that very same afternoon, our house burned down.
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Erik Orton
my word. my.
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Emily Orton
Word. Well, yeah, you're like, man. Sometimes I fantasize about our house burning down because, like, all I knew was.
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Erik Orton
Wow, it's dark.
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Emily Orton
Yeah, you know what I'm saying? But no, because sometimes. But sometimes we get in, we get into a position where our stuff owns us instead of us owning our stuff. And you can tell you're in that position when you're like, I wish, you know, all this would just go away.
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Chrissy Walker
Definitely be true. And we did have all of our baby clothes, all of our childhood keepsakes, all of that.
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Lance Walker
From college, all the all the everything that you carry around with you that you think you might want someday.
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Chrissy Walker
It all burned on. It all got ruined in the fire. And it does help you evaluate what do I really value in this life, what really matters. And at the end of the day, that stuff just doesn't really matter. What mattered was we were all safe and no one got hurt in the fire and we rebuilt. You know, it was a long, very difficult few months, but the home ended up being beautiful and brand new.
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Lance Walker
And yeah, it's just it's a again, a good lesson. And it goes back to this parable of the guy with the horse because that week like, I'll never forget that week we called the insurance company and they're like, because we had a duplex and we rented one side on Airbnb. And that came out in the discussion with him and he said, Well, actually it doesn't.
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Lance Walker
That sounds like it's not a covered activity on your policy. So now I'm looking at like, okay, my house just burned down and this guy's telling me that my insurance isn't going to cover the loss. And, you know, about a week later we got it resolved and they were like, okay, you you when you set the policy, you weren't doing the short term rentals.
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Lance Walker
So insurance companies decided to cover it, which sounds like a miracle to me because.
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Emily Orton
I.
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Lance Walker
Feel like don't do that. That will happen. If they have any way to wiggle out, they're going to do it.
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Chrissy Walker
And it ended up being a $430,000 claim.
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Lance Walker
Yeah, So it was I mean, that would have been not insignificant and, and so, yes, it was very, very hard. Like Krissy was completely bedridden for the following four months and sick for most of the pregnancy. And I was just kind of like trying to run my company that wasn't quite doing well yet and take care of the other three kids that really needed a mom and a dad, but only had me.
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Lance Walker
And but afterwards, you know, we had a brand new, beautiful home. Everything was rebuilt.
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Chrissy Walker
A brand new, beautiful baby.
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Emily Orton
Brand new, beautiful.
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Lance Walker
Baby. And long story short, that very hard time. It was so emotional and I was so down and so broken through that period of time that that was a big part of why I could not go back after COVID and and rebuild the graphics company. And so I think I you know, if that hadn't happened, maybe I would have had the energy and I would still be doing something I am not really passionate about and don't really enjoy.
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Lance Walker
And so sometimes it has to get bad enough and you have to get low enough that you're like, No, enough is enough. I'm not I'm not going to do this anymore. I don't care if I fail. I have to go pursue something. I really care about and I have to go on a journey that is going to be enjoyable, even if the end result isn't what I had hoped for.
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Chrissy Walker
And when you're taking the safe option and the option you're not really passionate about, you don't care deeply about, you can fail doing that too. So why not fail doing something that you feel really deeply about? But that while you're doing, even if you fail, you can still feel really alive?
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Lance Walker
Yeah.
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Emily Orton
man, I love.
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Erik Orton
This so much. Guy.
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Emily Orton
Lance and Krissy listening. They are coming to your house today because I was actually just reading this. Our our friend York wrote an incredible, beautiful book called Ridiculously Okay and all about the the kind of practical art of letting go. And what I was just reading this morning is he was talking about how he had this big fear of death and he realized that it isn't really death, that we're afraid of.
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Emily Orton
The thing that we're most afraid of is being our true self. And so we come up with all these other sort of things to distract us. Well, I have to take care of this problem or I have to be busy over there or I'm, you know, doing something impressive right now. And it's it's really about becoming our true self.
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Emily Orton
And it is so scary to go on a journey of discovering what am I really capable of and, and, and the other thing that I love about this is I always say, at least in our house, like it doesn't really matter what you achieve. That's not what defines a heroic journey, right? It what it matters is what you overcome because the obstacles that you're willing to, like crawl over to become your true self, those are what make it a heroic journey.
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Emily Orton
And I think we've just heard here, like in the last 4 minutes, craziest story of just gargantuan obstacles that, you know, you you there was no way around it. Like you had to go through those. But while you were in the middle of it, you were like, how are we going to come out on the other side? And you're like, We're going to be like a Phenix, right?
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Emily Orton
We're not going to try to replicate our previous the previous version of ourself in a new house. Like everything was reborn after that fire.
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Lance Walker
But I think it's important to it was like a long process, right? So. So the house burned down in the pregnancy like that's 2018. And it wasn't until 2023 that we were like, okay, we're going for it. Like, it was a long process of like that was so crappy and then trying to figure it out. So and, and I love that you brought up the hero's journey because I had had a really, really, really hard time letting go of that thing that I had put so much into that I hated and, and Krissy brought up that exact thing about the hero's journey.
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Lance Walker
And like, you have to view it a different way. You have to see it as something that helped you get to where you eventually wanted to go.
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Chrissy Walker
That was the path we had to take to get to where we are. And so looking back and regretting that power to me doesn't make sense because that was the path that led us here. It was the rock bottom that we had to reach in order to have the courage to say enough is enough. We're going to go for it.
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Chrissy Walker
We're going to sell everything and move to another country you like. That takes a lot of courage to do that. But when you do hit the rock bottom like that, when you do live a life that isn't true to yourself, I think that it's the contrast. You have to have that contrast to know this is not what I want.
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Chrissy Walker
What do I really want?
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Erik Orton
I love it, guys, and I'm just I'm feeling it because I know that the thing that led us to sailing and everything that came after it was and Lance, you probably haven't gotten into this, you know, in our book or anything like that. But it was it was a total business failure that that led us there because I was having a, you know, a great time in New York, working in the theater industry, running and producing shows.
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Erik Orton
And it wasn't until it all explode did and we lost everything that we can. And I didn't hate that life. It wasn't like it was bad, but I just thought I didn't want to go back to it.
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Emily Orton
And and.
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Erik Orton
It just anyway, just.
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Emily Orton
But it was a four year journey from Yeah, it was like obstacle that, that later we could look at as a stepping stone. Like if that wouldn't have happened, the whole trajectory would be different and I think our value system would be just a little bit different than it is. And it caused us to have similar conversations to you and to recalibrate.
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Emily Orton
And we didn't immediately go, well, good, now we can reinvent, you know. But.
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Chrissy Walker
But yeah, it doesn't happen like that in the moment. In hindsight, you can see it like that. Yeah.
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Emily Orton
After we went on the journey the first time we had this template for like, we know what's going on here. We know fear is going to pop up over here. We know that we're going to come up with excuses. We know how we're going to reverse this. And we were able to move through the journey so much faster once we identified all the different parts.
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Emily Orton
But the first time it was like all it took us four years, though, to to make the turnaround.
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Chrissy Walker
Using our journeys are really similar.
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Erik Orton
Yeah. So, so take us to that moment where you kind of said, you know what, if we buy a resort in Belize, like, you know, how do you come to that moment from So, you know, because COVID has kind of demolished your business or at least kind of eroded it and you kind of just say, you know what, I'm done with this.
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Erik Orton
And and from there to saying, let's try. And first of all, you know, where do you go window shopping for resorts, you know, and and and then making making the decision to go for it. And I'm curious for myself, because we're sort of we're not planning to buy a resort, but we're sort of doing some new things in a business space that's totally separate from this.
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Erik Orton
That is we feel scary. So we're really just like here to get free coaching.
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Chrissy Walker
I think you need to coach us. We're you're you're a few years ahead of our journey. But I would say looking back, we really it was a series of small decisions that led us there. It wasn't like we were living in our house and woke up, you know, kind of like you were saying it. We first decided to sell our duplex.
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Chrissy Walker
It was, you know, brand newly renovated so we could command a much higher price for it. And we had decided, okay, we're going to build a wellness resort in Utah and we're going to build a home in Midway for our family, kind of our forever home. So we bought a lot and midway and we're starting to talk to some people about building our wellness resort.
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Chrissy Walker
And we had a mutual friend, one of Lance's all business partners, that said, Hey, this is sounding kind of familiar, actually. You need to talk to Darren Hill, who who wants to build a wellness resort in Belize. And I remember the first who brought this to me. We had our plan. We were building in Utah our forever home.
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Chrissy Walker
And Lance says, yeah, you know, we should go talk to this guy. He wants to build a resort in Belize. And I'm like, okay, that is not happening. There's no way. And then we went and met with Darren. And from that very first meeting, I think we both felt so good about him as a partner. And he shared his vision of this property in Belize that he had found seven years prior.
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Chrissy Walker
So he had been waiting a long time to find the right partner that could move here and make it happen. And we just I don't know, I would say it really did feel like the stars kind of aligned and two weeks later we were down here. We fell in love with the property in a way we didn't expect.
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Chrissy Walker
It's just it's incredible. And and we were decided from that point forward. So.
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Lance Walker
Yeah, there were still a lot of details to work out, and it took several months after that to work out those details. And we can tell you more about that journey because there was a lot of hard work in that journey. But those are the highlights. Like we just kind of put one foot in front of the other saying goodbye to our old life.
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Lance Walker
And as we did that and we started to look forward to embracing what we really wanted to do and we had kind of talked about starting a health and wellness retreat or is or as like our retirement plan, like, okay, when we retire, when we have enough money, when we have all that all the time, and money in the world never happens, right?
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Lance Walker
But people think it's going to happen. And so we're like, Hey, when that happens, then we'll go do this thing. And there came a point where we started talking about, why are we waiting and how could we do it now instead of waiting? And as soon as we started opening up our minds and our hearts to that question, like how could we do it now?
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Lance Walker
Instead of waiting, that's when the doors started to open.
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Chrissy Walker
They really did. I mean, when I see the stars aligned, that's what it felt like at every turn. And like Lance is saying, as soon as we had opened our hearts to it and had started taking these little steps to the life we really wanted, everything really did fall into place. Not that it wasn't without its challenges because there were monumental challenges as well, but it did very much feel like we were being watched out for and everything was working out for our good.
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Lance Walker
Yeah, and I think it's important to acknowledge there's a spiritual aspect in finding your path in life. And there was for us. And now, however that looks for you, I think for us there was a moment where we decided to pray about this opportunity and it was long before we really had any idea whether it was going to work out for us.
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Chrissy Walker
And well, you heard how I reacted when you first told me about building a resort in Belize. I was like, That is like the chances of that working out are so low. And then Lance suggested we have a couple's prayer, and so he prayed about it. And again.
00:26:17:11 - 00:26:19:06
Emily Orton
Like, God, I'm.
00:26:19:06 - 00:26:48:18
Chrissy Walker
Embarrassed to admit, but I'm like rolling my eyes as he's praying about this right in our couple's prayer, like, this why is even praying about this? The chances of this happening are so low. We hadn't even met the guy. What are the chances he would, you know, be a good partner? And as Lance's praying about it, I just had an overwhelming feeling of peace and then my my next thought was, crap, we're moving to Belize.
00:26:48:20 - 00:26:53:01
Erik Orton
You head straight there. You're like, okay, this is definitely happening here.
00:26:53:01 - 00:26:54:11
Emily Orton
I am being the skeptic.
00:26:54:11 - 00:27:08:21
Chrissy Walker
And he's he's approaching you with so much faith and I'm being the skeptic. And then in that one simple prayer, it was, you know, just so much peace brought to my heart, like, yeah, this this could be a really good path for you guys.
00:27:08:23 - 00:27:30:22
Erik Orton
Okay. This is all so beautiful and wonderful. I want to I want to back up to a few things that you said, Lance, you talked about this was kind of the retirement plan down the road. How about how can we do it now? How can why do we have to wait? Is there a way to do it sooner?
00:27:31:00 - 00:27:59:16
Erik Orton
You talked about that the likelihood was low and that but that there was a spiritual aspect to this and that as you started to open your mind and your heart to how it could happen sooner and this very unlikely thing that just feels far fetched, you know, how could it how could it happen now instead of just relegating it to some future arbitrary circumstances or time in your life?
00:27:59:18 - 00:28:21:20
Erik Orton
I think this is a really important concept because so often we predetermine when we'll let good things come into our lives and we say now it's it's too soon for good things to happen to me. Or, you know, it's too soon to do the things that I have to pay my dues. I have to eat my vegetables however you want to describe it.
00:28:22:01 - 00:28:42:10
Erik Orton
But I love what you're saying about just being open to things happening in an in a sequence that is not typical in what we observe in most of each other's lives. And so I'm just curious to hear more about that thought of of opening up to a different timeline and something that feels.
00:28:42:10 - 00:28:43:08
Emily Orton
Different location.
00:28:43:09 - 00:29:07:05
Erik Orton
A different location, and also something that just feels improbable because like you, I have just seen it happen in our own lives and so many of our coaching clients where once you open up to it, man, things start to appear solutions and ideas and people and resources. And so I'd love for you to just that. And I know that it's no simple thing to say, this is the other thing.
00:29:07:06 - 00:29:10:10
Erik Orton
I love it. Is it Daniel Hill? Is that his name?
00:29:10:12 - 00:29:11:20
Chrissy Walker
Derek. Karen Hill.
00:29:11:20 - 00:29:21:23
Erik Orton
Yes, Daryn Hill. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Darren. You know, seven years prior was like, I've identified this property and he's sitting on an idea for seven years.
00:29:22:02 - 00:29:22:18
Emily Orton
I love that.
00:29:22:19 - 00:29:44:13
Erik Orton
And then you guys come along and I love that there's just this these these timelines that spanned almost you know, you could, you know, I'm guessing that kind of like between conception and completion is probably a decade. Yeah. You know, at least from him to where you guys are now, I'm guessing it's probably been ten years since he first had his ideas.
00:29:44:13 - 00:29:48:10
Emily Orton
And then when it was right, how fast it moved because you guys were in Belize two weeks later.
00:29:48:10 - 00:29:55:09
Chrissy Walker
Well, we didn't move to balloon. We you? Yeah, we were just here checking out the property, and then it was like, almost like checking.
00:29:55:09 - 00:29:55:16
Emily Orton
With your.
00:29:55:17 - 00:29:56:18
Erik Orton
Aunt. You were on a plane and you.
00:29:56:20 - 00:30:04:23
Emily Orton
Were like, Then now I'm standing in this location of where I said we would never come. Right? Then it's like.
00:30:05:00 - 00:30:12:01
Erik Orton
So there's not a really concrete, clear question in there, but can you just talk some more about that? Because that's really, really special stuff.
00:30:12:06 - 00:30:20:16
Emily Orton
It's the thing that's very hard for people to understand. So the more examples of it happening, you know, the more we can build a case for our listeners to trust us.
00:30:20:16 - 00:30:49:22
Lance Walker
But it's it's true. And again, it's, it's one of these things it's easy to connect the dots looking back. It's hard to have the faith and the vision to see where it's going moving forward, but so that the partner that connected us actually came from another failed venture that I was a part of. And because of the relationship that we built there, the both of us had a lot of trust because of how we handled that, that failure in working together.
00:30:50:00 - 00:31:02:19
Lance Walker
He had the confidence to recommend us to work with Darren. And then I had seen something online when Darren launched the company that he's running now, which is called Rev Road. It's a venture services firm.
00:31:02:21 - 00:31:05:05
Chrissy Walker
And there is an incredible man.
00:31:05:07 - 00:31:31:18
Lance Walker
Amazing entrepreneur, just an incredible person. And when I saw him, I saw him a little video or something and I was just like, that's a cool guy. I'd like to get to know him someday. And I never forgot about him, never had the opportunity to meet him, never like, pursued it. But when my mom and my other friends said, Hey, I want you to meet this guy, Darren Hill, I was like, I totally know about that guy.
00:31:31:20 - 00:31:56:08
Lance Walker
I randomly saw a video about him several years before, so there was that little bit, and then, you know, the part about like opening your mind and your heart and then things start to flow into your life. Like those happened before. I was ready to open my mind and my heart. But as soon as as soon as we were committed, we were going that direction.
00:31:56:10 - 00:32:10:21
Lance Walker
I started talking about it right like, Hey, this is what we're going to do. I had the confidence to actually tell people that's what we were going to do. Yeah. And and to be vulnerable enough to say, I don't know how we're going to do it, but we're headed this direction and this is what we want to do.
00:32:10:23 - 00:32:29:09
Lance Walker
And and then that's when John was like, Hey, you need to talk to this guy, because otherwise nobody would have had any idea that that's what we wanted to do and they wouldn't have known how to make the right connections or, you know, tie us into their plans so well.
00:32:29:09 - 00:32:56:13
Chrissy Walker
And I think for me, as you're talking about all those things, I think it goes back to believing that you are worthy and capable. And for me, that has been a big theme of this is did I think that we could go and do this? And there have been times where I thought, That's crazy. Why could we think, you know, how why we're not we've never owned a hotel or a resort before and we've certainly never done that in another country.
00:32:56:13 - 00:33:24:09
Chrissy Walker
Like why do we think that we can do that? But, you know, through meditation, through some personal spiritual work, really coming to a place where we believed we are capable of overcoming any obstacle that comes our way and we're worthy of of obtaining the dreams that we have. And I think a lot of times we approach as human beings, we approach wanting to chase our dreams from a place of scarcity.
00:33:24:09 - 00:33:45:20
Chrissy Walker
I don't have everything that I need. I don't have the resources that I need. I don't have the time, I don't have the skills. But being able to really live in and really embody, I have everything I need and I am more than capable. I think it has to come from a place of that to be able to bring the rest of the things into your life.
00:33:45:22 - 00:34:08:09
Emily Orton
I think so too, and I think trusting that what you need will emerge in the moment, just like you started asking, how can we do this now as you, you know, take that first step forward and you're like, this is now I see, this is what I need. Do I have that? It might talk it? And then usually once you're looking for it, it appears.
00:34:08:11 - 00:34:26:11
Chrissy Walker
Yeah. And I guess that's what I'm saying. Like, not that you necessarily have everything you need. I think you're articulating it well, but that you believe in your ability to navigate your, you know, your lack of whatever you lack, you can navigate and figure it out.
00:34:26:13 - 00:34:46:01
Lance Walker
Yeah. There is another thing that you guys just reminded me of selling our house, right? So I really didn't want to sell our house. We were making great money renting it on Airbnb. We were, we were settled there and I thought if we move, I just want to keep it and we can even increase the income we have from it even more.
00:34:46:03 - 00:35:01:13
Lance Walker
And it was another one of these questions, Well, how could you or you know what if and Krissy said, Well, what if we could like what would you have? What would we have to sell it for? For it to be worth it to you and and to be able to have what we needed to go do something else.
00:35:01:13 - 00:35:21:16
Lance Walker
And I was like, I don't know. And I threw out a number thinking there's no way we'd be able to get that for the house. And then we sold the house for more than that number. And so that was another thing. Like I couldn't even open my mind to to what we already had, what we were literally living in and the value that was there.
00:35:21:18 - 00:35:28:15
Lance Walker
And but once I did, then wow happened. And it happened very quickly.
00:35:28:17 - 00:35:48:09
Erik Orton
Well, first of all, I love what you're sharing. And man, I just I hope that we have time to get all the good stuff because I'm really loving this conversation. A couple of things that you said. I started talking about it. You had you had enough courage to talk about it out loud. And I think this is really important.
00:35:48:11 - 00:36:10:14
Erik Orton
He said, I was vulnerable. We were vulnerable enough to say we didn't know how we're going to do it. So you're talking about a wellness center, but also saying, don't know. And I guess I'm really feeling connected because and I won't go into detail about our situation, but we're also looking at acquiring a business or two that we have no idea how to pull it off.
00:36:10:16 - 00:36:22:15
Erik Orton
It's totally new territory for us. And and I think we might have had some similar disparities of feelings about it. And I and I'm not sure I think we're in a better place at me.
00:36:22:15 - 00:36:43:06
Emily Orton
If you're listening to this podcast. Well, all I would say about this is we tell our kids, when it's your birthday and you make a wish, you blow out the candle. When I grew up, we were always told, Don't tell anybody or your wish won't come true. And I tell my kids the opposite. I'm like, Whatever you just wished for, tell as many people as possible.
00:36:43:06 - 00:36:56:20
Emily Orton
And that will send those little like seeds out into the universe. And people say, I have an idea and I can help. Like, I'm like, Tell everyone your birthday wish and it'll and it will probably come true.
00:36:56:22 - 00:37:17:20
Erik Orton
And so I love this. There's two parts to this emotional courage that you guys are demonstrating because, Lance, you're talking about the vulnerability of saying, I don't know. And I think that, you know, this is stereotypical. I'm stereotyping here. I think this is harder for men to do. We like to I think men like to come across as competent.
00:37:17:20 - 00:37:26:06
Erik Orton
And yes, hey, you know, this is my wheelhouse. And, you know, and we want to we want to sort of exude a I got this vibe.
00:37:26:08 - 00:37:36:22
Emily Orton
From myself as a woman. I'd say like, we want to feel safe. We want to feel like there's some security I know is an illusion, but we might to have that.
00:37:37:00 - 00:38:09:17
Erik Orton
And so I think being humble enough to say, I don't got this, I think I can figure it out, but I don't have all the answers right now I think is super commendable. And then to what you're saying, Christi, about just being open enough to trust in our current worth and capabilities and not feel like we're less than because we don't know yet how we're going to pull something off or make it happen or we're just accepting that it's I'm worthy of it now and I can let it come into my life.
00:38:09:17 - 00:38:50:03
Erik Orton
And it doesn't it's not some future version of me that deserves this. The current version of me deserves it and and is has the capabilities to overcome all the obstacles that are in front of me. And so I just love this duality of kind of vulnerability and courage that you guys are talking about. And I'm just I'm wondering, are there any instances of that that you can recall where whether vulnerability or courage that you leaned into that were that felt like they were pivotal or corner turning in this process of moving from building an midway to acquiring something in Belize.
00:38:50:05 - 00:39:18:15
Chrissy Walker
Or definitely the one that comes to mind. That was very stressful. We just barely released a YouTube video on this, but the the Jungle property was not really working out. We were trying to negotiate with the sellers. We were we kept hitting roadblocks and so we ended up getting under contract for a beach property in Belize and we moved here.
00:39:18:17 - 00:39:29:06
Lance Walker
We well, they they came back actually the same day the beach property and the jungle property came back and said, okay, we'll accept your offer. So we moved down here thinking, okay, we're going to do both.
00:39:29:08 - 00:39:41:16
Chrissy Walker
Let's do both like this. Have the same day. They both came back after months of like hard negotiation and said that, and we were like, okay, well, let's just do both. Let's do the beach and the jungle like this is amazing.
00:39:41:16 - 00:39:54:14
Lance Walker
And our plan was to do beach first that they were ready to close quickly. And the jungle we could take, we could tell was going to take a while. So we're like, All right, we'll just prolong that closing and then we'll close quickly on the beach property.
00:39:54:16 - 00:40:09:08
Chrissy Walker
So we moved down here. We were not yet closed on the beach property, but we moved out there. So we took all of our luggage and our four kids. We have four kids. I guess we have. Or maybe you guys mentioned that in the beginning.
00:40:09:10 - 00:40:10:16
Emily Orton
Yeah. Yeah.
00:40:10:18 - 00:40:11:16
Chrissy Walker
And real quick.
00:40:11:16 - 00:40:13:04
Erik Orton
What are their ages though?
00:40:13:06 - 00:40:21:05
Chrissy Walker
Okay, so our oldest is a boy, he's 13 and then we have 11, nine and four girls, four year old girls.
00:40:21:05 - 00:40:23:18
Lance Walker
And we've been here for a year, so they were all a year younger.
00:40:23:18 - 00:40:24:08
Chrissy Walker
Yeah. And you.
00:40:24:08 - 00:40:24:20
Emily Orton
Can do.
00:40:24:23 - 00:40:29:13
Erik Orton
That. So they were you started out between ages. Oldest was 12 and youngest was three.
00:40:29:15 - 00:40:30:10
Chrissy Walker
Yes.
00:40:30:12 - 00:40:34:05
Emily Orton
That right. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So we're so we're we're at the border.
00:40:34:05 - 00:40:35:07
Erik Orton
So we're in.
00:40:35:07 - 00:40:37:09
Emily Orton
Belize, but we haven't closed on anything.
00:40:37:11 - 00:40:39:15
Erik Orton
You're in Belize, but you're homeless.
00:40:39:17 - 00:40:40:23
Emily Orton
Yeah.
00:40:41:01 - 00:41:04:12
Chrissy Walker
So we moved to the beach property and we started having contract issues with the seller there. He hadn't really been upfront with us about his terms with the previous sellers. And so we found out, you know, we're already we've already moved everything there. Girls are unpacking. We find out actually he can't sell the property to us under the terms that we agreed.
00:41:04:14 - 00:41:31:05
Chrissy Walker
And at the same time there was this giant sargassum issue at the resort, which is the seaweed that grows in the middle of the Atlantic. It's, you know, pounding Florida and the Caribbean and Mexico and the sargassum at the resort was just it was disgusting. It was it smelled like a dump. And you'd have to drive past four miles of this to get to the resort.
00:41:31:06 - 00:41:56:05
Chrissy Walker
And it just felt so insurmountable. It really did feel like a nightmare come true. What was happening to us at this point and so stressful, so hard on the kids. And I think I would say that was a really pivotal moment for us, because here was this dream we had actually, you know, packed up everything and moved to believe and we thought, this is going to be our dream life.
00:41:56:05 - 00:42:02:07
Chrissy Walker
And then everything was falling apart. And so that's your nightmare period of time. Yeah. Yes.
00:42:02:09 - 00:42:18:01
Lance Walker
You can imagine the kids, too. Like, it's one thing to deal with that as an adult, but as a child. Like, we've kind of built this up for them. We tell them this is what we're going to do, and then we get there and we're like, Just kidding, guys, pack up. Where are we going? We don't really know.
00:42:18:03 - 00:42:19:05
Lance Walker
Yeah.
00:42:19:07 - 00:42:24:09
Erik Orton
And it stings. Yeah. Like later these things.
00:42:24:11 - 00:42:24:17
Emily Orton
Yeah.
00:42:24:17 - 00:42:33:03
Lance Walker
So we, you know, for, for the next three months, to your point, we were homeless in Belize and we're bouncing.
00:42:33:03 - 00:42:36:17
Erik Orton
That's a long three months, guys. It's got to be felt so long.
00:42:36:19 - 00:42:44:00
Lance Walker
It was so long. And we're trying, we're, you know, we're, we're in ten different places. We lived ten different places during that time period and.
00:42:44:00 - 00:42:47:14
Chrissy Walker
Trying to homeschool for the same.
00:42:47:16 - 00:42:49:02
Emily Orton
Wow.
00:42:49:04 - 00:43:13:02
Lance Walker
Trying to hire and train and then realizing it wouldn't work out with three different nannies during that time period so that we could we could focus on work and they could help the kids with their schooling and lots of varied living situations. So not really ever feeling settled, I think. I think actually we got to a point because we had 18 suitcases, some of which were pretty large.
00:43:13:02 - 00:43:15:01
Lance Walker
This was our whole life packed up in the suitcases.
00:43:15:05 - 00:43:17:05
Erik Orton
I believe it for six people. Yeah.
00:43:17:06 - 00:43:18:04
Emily Orton
Yeah.
00:43:18:06 - 00:43:45:09
Lance Walker
And so we got to a point where, like you imagine taking these 18 suitcases out to an island and, you know, taking them 14 miles up on, like, crappy dirt, bumpy roads up to this remote resort, and then, you know, reversing that immediately and taking them to an Airbnb that we were in for just a couple of days, then trying to get them back to the mainland.
00:43:45:09 - 00:44:04:01
Lance Walker
And we're like, we just can't take 18 suitcases to all these different places because we don't know how long we can stay in each one. So we found a friend here that allowed us to leave our suitcases at their place and we're like, Let's just take what we need for a month and and then we'll just leave the rest of the suitcases here.
00:44:04:01 - 00:44:08:18
Chrissy Walker
I wear the same outfit pretty much every day for like six weeks.
00:44:08:20 - 00:44:17:05
Lance Walker
60,000 packing outfits. And it just didn't work out that way. And we couldn't really go back and get anything. So I think you had to outfit.
00:44:17:07 - 00:44:18:07
Emily Orton
It with.
00:44:18:09 - 00:44:42:15
Lance Walker
It was maybe it was three, but it was like, whatever it was, you're just wearing the same thing on repeat for a month. And so it's just like back to the vulnerability thing. What I was going to say, it's just I think that you have to be humble enough to do the really hard parts and and not be to not be, you know, too good for that.
00:44:42:17 - 00:45:05:22
Lance Walker
We came from a very comfortable life. And and there are portions of our life even now that are not glamorous at all. And and you have to be willing to do those things to chase what you really care about. And we joke that our our life is so funny right now because we, we don't we don't cook or clean.
00:45:06:00 - 00:45:21:04
Lance Walker
We live we live at a resort. Like a lot of those daily things that everybody does are centralized. They're centralized. We don't do our own laundry and we live in 700 square feet with one bathroom for six people and.
00:45:21:06 - 00:45:21:22
Emily Orton
So, you.
00:45:22:00 - 00:45:25:15
Chrissy Walker
Know, this is like you lived on a boat. Yeah.
00:45:25:17 - 00:45:27:07
Erik Orton
And our apartment in New York.
00:45:27:07 - 00:45:36:21
Emily Orton
And it and it had a lot of incredible benefits for our family. But I bet you have a huge yard, let's say that for you. Yes, we have a 300 acre yard.
00:45:36:23 - 00:45:48:08
Erik Orton
Yeah, it's not. I love that you're saying it's not always glamorous and that's true. There are always tradeoffs. There are parts that are stunningly beautiful and out of this world. And then there's parts that are not so sorry. Keep going. Yeah.
00:45:48:08 - 00:45:49:07
Emily Orton
Yeah. I'm loving.
00:45:49:07 - 00:46:10:23
Chrissy Walker
This. No, I love what you were saying, though, that that was really good for your family. I do feel like we're sharing one bathroom, which definitely has its challenges, but I wouldn't trade it. I really wouldn't. Because having all of us be so close and really having to depend on each other because we're all we've got here in the middle of the jungle, there's something really beautiful about that.
00:46:10:23 - 00:46:21:16
Chrissy Walker
And I have definitely seen a growth in our kids and and a strengthening of their friendships and a strengthening of us as a family as a whole.
00:46:21:18 - 00:46:53:02
Emily Orton
Yeah, You really get to know each other and you trust each other's limits. You're like, that person just needs a little space there. We're not going to bother them. And maybe the only space they have to themselves is their bed. But yes, so, you know, kind of have sacred, quiet and and we all and we all know and, you know, you kind of bump the rough edges off each other and you learn how to to navigate each other's needs and moods and and all the great stuff that everybody brings.
00:46:53:02 - 00:47:15:23
Emily Orton
I know when our kids all came home, we started being together all the time in a small space. It was only after two weeks that the older kids started realizing how much value the younger kids brought to the equation. Like, you're actually really funny, you know? And like all this mutual respect grew up around where before they had started to develop this sort of a just, you know, like, well, you're two grades below me.
00:47:15:23 - 00:47:54:18
Emily Orton
So, you know, you don't count your I actually would love to segway into that. We said at the beginning, we like to talk about, you know, as an individual and as and as a family and then also, you know, with adult kids, which isn't the case here. But just how has this affected maybe go backwards? Like how has this, you know, been for your kids or for you as a parent and then for you as partners and then maybe just speak to individually like what this growth journey, which I know you're in the middle of, has been like for you so far.
00:47:54:20 - 00:48:30:09
Lance Walker
So it was it was a really hard transition for the kids initially. The social aspect, especially for the older kids, was really difficult, which we didn't actually anticipate. We didn't they weren't super social like doing a lot of playdates and and things like that before we moved. And so we didn't I didn't anticipate that very much, but I think we kind of downplayed the amount of social interaction they were getting at school and how that would be completely gone when we moved down here.
00:48:30:09 - 00:48:51:08
Lance Walker
So that was really hard for them. It kept it kept coming up again and again for several months now. I feel like they've settled more into like, okay, this is this where we are? And we're we actually have a lot of cool things that we get to do and they're looking on the bright side of of being here and really enjoying it.
00:48:51:10 - 00:49:14:00
Chrissy Walker
The other thing that was a real transitional piece for our oldest, our 13 year old, is when we put in our Tower Ferns. So we really wanted him to have something that he could that could be his own thing that he could work on regularly and see, see progress. And so when we brought these tower farms in, it was actually my parents that were in town.
00:49:14:00 - 00:49:35:14
Chrissy Walker
And my dad said to us, you know, this ought to be his. Like, what if you make him the expert on these tower farms and he knows more than anyone does, you know, even the even the groundskeepers and the maintenance team. And so we really kind of shared that vision with him from the beginning. And we just watched him bloom, no pun intended.
00:49:35:18 - 00:49:37:15
Emily Orton
Yeah.
00:49:37:17 - 00:50:00:10
Chrissy Walker
But he really did. Just blew them under this this project. And to have something to care for every day that really needed him, that was a real turning point for him. And like Lance is saying, they are just the kids are absolutely thriving now. They love it here in the jungle. We have a lot of pets. We've got two dogs, two cats and two bunnies.
00:50:00:10 - 00:50:13:13
Chrissy Walker
And we have we got an ATV for Christmas. So we we encourage them to get out on the trails as much as possible and take their animals with them. And they are they're very, very happy now.
00:50:13:15 - 00:50:35:18
Lance Walker
Yeah. And I like what you were saying about kind of the close quarters, kind of like figuring each other out and rubbing off the edges. There's definitely been a lot of that that's happened over the last year between all of them, I think. And and also also for us as a couple and as our relationships with them and our relationships with each other.
00:50:35:20 - 00:51:07:06
Lance Walker
And I, I think that is going to change the trajectory of the relationships that we have as a family for the rest of our lives. Yeah. And it doesn't mean it has been easy, has it? All those interactions, I think a lot of times are difficult when you're figuring out how to best love each other and and when people need space and how to navigate each other's personalities and and there's still some of that that we're figuring out.
00:51:07:06 - 00:51:12:05
Lance Walker
But overall, it's been a huge blessing. Yeah.
00:51:12:07 - 00:51:35:13
Chrissy Walker
I think the other thing for us that's been really important and that we've seen from here is it kind of, you know, our oldest is 13, he was in junior high. A lot of negative influences there that he wasn't partaking but are still, you know, very close. And I feel like by coming here we have we have extended his childhood.
00:51:35:13 - 00:52:02:12
Chrissy Walker
We've extended all of their childhoods really to be just this very simple, sweet, You know, it's almost like rewinding the clock 50 years and giving them just this idyllic, you know, go to the swimming hole in the afternoon kind of life that has been really fulfilling. That part has been really beautiful for us, where it's like, yeah, can see all the struggle we went through, but now it feels completely worth it.
00:52:02:14 - 00:52:19:22
Emily Orton
That's awesome. Yeah, I can totally I can totally see that. And you're like, and we get to keep living here, right? Our our journey was temporary. We saw that and our kids came back and, and one of them just went into a depression. Like, people don't kids my age don't know how to just, like, even interact with each other.
00:52:19:22 - 00:52:38:08
Emily Orton
They just want to, like, watch a movie or, you know, we're not going to, like, create anything together or build anything. Whereas when they were living on the sailboat, it was like, Let's invent a dive show. Let's learn how to cook. Let's write a new song. Like they they came up with all these, like naturally human ways to interact and engage and, and create.
00:52:38:12 - 00:52:39:17
Emily Orton
And then we were.
00:52:39:21 - 00:52:40:17
Erik Orton
Rich ways.
00:52:40:17 - 00:53:04:06
Emily Orton
Yet things that were very fulfilling and satisfying. And your heart and mind and and connection and yeah, we returned back to our you know, we returned back to New York City and it was like we are very different in what we enjoy and find fulfilling. And now it's so hard for the people who were with to, to connect because they're like, did you see this or did you watch that?
00:53:04:06 - 00:53:05:18
Emily Orton
Well, yeah.
00:53:05:21 - 00:53:16:15
Lance Walker
I've started feeling that even when we go back to visit, sometimes I'm like, I just don't want to leave the jungle. I don't want to go back. And things feel a little bit stark.
00:53:16:16 - 00:53:16:20
Chrissy Walker
A little.
00:53:16:20 - 00:53:17:18
Lance Walker
Bit stark. A little.
00:53:17:18 - 00:53:18:07
Emily Orton
Bit.
00:53:18:09 - 00:53:20:02
Chrissy Walker
A little bit, yeah.
00:53:20:04 - 00:53:42:11
Lance Walker
Like, you know, here one of the things we've talked about is it just as it gets dark, we have very limited light. Just because we're an eco resort, we don't have a lot of power to lamp light every evening and then we don't have a lot of lights on and you just feel tired sooner, like you're just more naturally in cycle with the sun.
00:53:42:12 - 00:53:51:00
Lance Walker
And we went back for to the States for a visit and I came back and my cycle was all thrown off of like, What's going on here?
00:53:51:00 - 00:54:10:20
Chrissy Walker
It's easy to stay up till 11 p.m., you know, when you've got artificial lights on. But when you're living in the jungle and you're being conscientious of power, it is. It's just it is a very beautiful, you know, rhythmic life where you go to sleep when it's dark and you wake up. You know, we wake up every morning at 530 and it's just starting to get light outside.
00:54:10:20 - 00:54:23:11
Chrissy Walker
And that's when the birds are all waking up and and making all their bird calls outside. And there is just something so beautiful about that, but that I will definitely miss if we.
00:54:23:13 - 00:54:23:21
Emily Orton
You know.
00:54:23:21 - 00:54:27:06
Chrissy Walker
When we don't live here.
00:54:27:08 - 00:54:50:02
Emily Orton
I love that. Okay. I feel like we've talked about what have been some of the impacts on the kids and I think it's great for listeners to hear that even if the first 12 to 16 weeks are really rough, it doesn't mean, hey, let's give up. Like it takes a while to detox and transition and you can just hang in there and trust that it's good for your human nature, right?
00:54:50:03 - 00:55:03:16
Emily Orton
And your divine nature to just be in situations that are so alive. And you talked a little bit as how it's impacted you as a couple. If there's more you want to say on that, please do. And then just tell us how it's impacted you individually.
00:55:03:18 - 00:55:22:13
Lance Walker
I'll go on the US impact as a couple. We we had kind of worked together on side projects previously, but we never worked full time together and that's different, especially when your office is your bedroom and the conference room.
00:55:22:15 - 00:55:23:23
Chrissy Walker
The bedrooms, everything.
00:55:24:01 - 00:55:24:16
Emily Orton
Is everything.
00:55:24:16 - 00:55:28:23
Erik Orton
And Emily's like, Yeah, I know, I can relate.
00:55:28:23 - 00:55:33:00
Emily Orton
I'm just right with you. Yeah.
00:55:33:02 - 00:55:33:21
Erik Orton
So and it has.
00:55:33:21 - 00:55:40:09
Emily Orton
Been for us here, like we have to level up our communication. Yes, yes, yes.
00:55:40:11 - 00:55:45:09
Lance Walker
And, and that's, that's what has happened. And we're still working on it.
00:55:45:10 - 00:55:45:20
Emily Orton
Yeah.
00:55:45:20 - 00:55:50:00
Lance Walker
Working on it even this morning a little bit.
00:55:50:02 - 00:55:53:10
Emily Orton
But every day. Every day, everybody needs to know every day.
00:55:53:12 - 00:55:57:08
Erik Orton
I thought it was just I had to work on it this morning.
00:55:57:10 - 00:55:59:05
Emily Orton
Please carry on. This is your story.
00:55:59:08 - 00:56:29:09
Lance Walker
There's just like we have to have a like a I think all the way along with we've known that we're both committed and that has gotten us through the rough patches of like, Wow, what's going on here? And how do we work through this communication problem? I the way my brain works, I like to dial in on things and if I get interrupted, I get cranky and.
00:56:29:12 - 00:56:31:19
Chrissy Walker
And I'm like, This is so great, I can just talk to.
00:56:31:19 - 00:56:31:23
Emily Orton
You.
00:56:32:03 - 00:56:53:11
Lance Walker
Very collaborative. She wants to talk to me 30 times a day about all kinds of different things. And so I've had to, like, you know, loosen up a little bit. And she's she's learned to give me a little bit more space and realize that that's how I get things done, is I dial in and can't be interrupted.
00:56:53:14 - 00:57:03:18
Chrissy Walker
But I think overall, I can't even count how many times we've told each other. I would not rather have I would. I would. How do you even say,
00:57:03:20 - 00:57:05:18
Lance Walker
I couldn't do this with anyone else, I.
00:57:05:18 - 00:57:21:12
Chrissy Walker
Couldn't do that. It's like I wouldn't want anyone else in my partner except for me. So we complement each other so well on our strengths. And we there's such a high level of trust there. Yeah. Of like, these are the things you're in charge of that you're really good at. These are the things I'm in charge of that I'm really good at.
00:57:21:14 - 00:57:51:05
Chrissy Walker
And so I think in that way it's been so fulfilling to work together. It's everything I had dreamed and hoped it would be. Just being able to. Yeah, just it is a whole entirely new level of of work and output for both of us to have a team of 30 people, 300 acres, you know, hosting we hosting ten different groups from around the world at any given time.
00:57:51:05 - 00:57:59:03
Chrissy Walker
It's a lot and so you have to be able to really depend on each other. When you're doing that, there's no other way, you know.
00:57:59:05 - 00:58:25:05
Lance Walker
So I think I think we've leveled I think we've also leveled up as because of the interactions that we've had as well. Like there are things that Christie sees in me and understands about me that no one else does. And she's able to kind of say, I think maybe you're approaching that the wrong way and kind of steer me different than any other coworker or partner that I've ever had in business.
00:58:25:06 - 00:58:54:17
Lance Walker
And so I've been able to recognize things that I think have been holding me back because of professional that I, I just wasn't able to recognize before because people either didn't know how to communicate it to me or didn't really understand it about me or were too afraid to tell me. And so that like, even if even if we stopped working together and I went and did something else this year would has made me a better professional.
00:58:54:19 - 00:58:57:12
Chrissy Walker
Yeah. For us both, I think. Definitely.
00:58:57:14 - 00:59:02:12
Erik Orton
That's so good, guys. Good for you. Congratulations. And it's inspiring for me to see.
00:59:02:16 - 00:59:15:00
Emily Orton
You can trust that the feedback is coming from someone who loves you and wants you to succeed where it might not always be like that in every partnership.
00:59:15:02 - 00:59:38:16
Chrissy Walker
Yeah. And then also I think it's been really unifying, you know, the path that we're that we are on is an entirely new path for both of us. So I think to be facing that together is there's a lot of there's a lot of power in that to just say, yeah, well, we don't really know what we're doing, but we're we always know we're in it together no matter what.
00:59:38:19 - 01:00:04:06
Emily Orton
I love that so much. We have a tradition. I just want to remind the listeners, like we talk about this usually annually, but for New Year's, we are for our anniversary, which is right by New Year's. We always try to do something new that neither of us have ever done before. You're doing this on a mega scale. Mega scale, but when you do that, it does draw you closer to each other because you're like, We're being humble together.
01:00:04:06 - 01:00:33:12
Emily Orton
We're both trying something new and it and it unites us and it and it keeps us feeling young. Yeah, I love that. Well, tell us some of the ways that this has impacted you just as an individual, because I know, especially when you're when your bedroom is your boardroom and your everything place and your marriage and business and life is all kind of rolled together as one thing, sometimes it can be a challenge to say, where do you end?
01:00:33:12 - 01:00:37:05
Emily Orton
And I began, you know, so like, but I'm curious, like houses.
01:00:37:05 - 01:00:38:21
Erik Orton
And she's asking for a friend.
01:00:38:21 - 01:00:42:21
Emily Orton
Asking for a friend? Yeah.
01:00:42:23 - 01:01:14:20
Chrissy Walker
I personally have struggled a little bit with anxiety since we moved here that this is a struggle that I've had for a lot of my life just after my third baby, I had postpartum depression and that, you know, all the hormonal changes and that took several years to get back to a good place. And I think definitely taking on the level of responsibility we've taken here and navigating so many unknowns has kind of exacerbated that a little bit.
01:01:14:22 - 01:01:39:09
Chrissy Walker
But, you know, also, I think in some ways that's been really beautiful because it is humbling to say I don't have all the answers. I don't have everything together, no matter how it may seem from the outside looking in, it's still messy and it's still difficult. And, you know, I still collapse in bed most nights by 830 and I receive by 830.
01:01:39:09 - 01:01:40:08
Emily Orton
You know, I.
01:01:40:10 - 01:02:12:04
Chrissy Walker
Just feel exhausted from all the work. And to be able to lean into this wellness side that we talked about that is so powerful to us. And a big part of our motivation to do this is taking care of your mental health, too. You know, for me, I've had to really prioritize my personal mental health to make sure I get an hour of yoga every single day, no matter what, to make sure I'm feeding my body with with what it needs and not junk.
01:02:12:06 - 01:02:38:10
Chrissy Walker
And that's a little easier when someone else is cooking for you and doing all the shopping. Yeah, but. But that's important nonetheless, you know, just making sure that you're nourishing your your mind in your body. And I have felt the need to do that even more so since we've moved here. So I feel like that for me has been kind of this beautiful tie in of of yeah, just because you're living in the middle of the jungle doesn't mean everything is perfect.
01:02:38:12 - 01:03:00:07
Emily Orton
And I like where you're saying that because you leveled up in the amount of uncertainty and challenge that you've taken on, it became even more critical that you take care of yourself in those other ways. Whereas a lot of times you can say like, life so stressful, I'm going to fall back into some kind of easy crutch way of living.
01:03:00:07 - 01:03:16:10
Emily Orton
And you're like, that's not sustainable for us. I must take care of myself or this falls apart, right? Yeah. And so it's not like it's for you, but also it's for everyone that you keep yourself in a centered balance place.
01:03:16:12 - 01:03:19:04
Chrissy Walker
So you articulated that so well. Exactly.
01:03:19:09 - 01:03:45:02
Lance Walker
I told I told Krissy the other day, like, you are the number one asset of this entire operation like that our that you take for yourself is the most valuable hour that you will spend the entire day. And I think people often overlook that. They don't understand that bit, right In order to get out and like give yourself all day long to everyone else.
01:03:45:04 - 01:04:08:08
Lance Walker
You have to take care of yourself first. Put on your own oxygen mask first before helping the person. It's like I'm getting emotional about that. But like if anyone's listening and they're feeling that like I'm overwhelmed, I'm stressed, I'm constantly giving to everyone else, maybe just stop and be like, What's my hour of yoga every day? What am I going to do to make sure that that happens?
01:04:08:10 - 01:04:26:12
Erik Orton
Well, I actually love that you used that oxygen mask metaphor, because Emily and I sometimes teach about parenting. And as a principle, we say, look, it's the same thing. We've all been on a plane and they always tell you you have to get your own oxygen mask on first before you can help the people that you love that you'd give your life for next to you.
01:04:26:14 - 01:04:32:17
Erik Orton
You have to you have to put your mask on first. And so you have be breathing and getting what your body.
01:04:32:17 - 01:04:33:10
Emily Orton
Needs every.
01:04:33:10 - 01:04:38:14
Erik Orton
Day. Yeah. So anyway, I think it's a beautiful metaphor. So thanks for bringing that up.
01:04:38:16 - 01:05:03:00
Lance Walker
For me personally, man. Hard to sum up what this last year has meant for me and how much it has changed me. I think in a lot of ways it's been healing from the years of just hard things I didn't want to be doing. I'm doing something now that I love and that I'm passionate about. And yes, it's hard.
01:05:03:00 - 01:05:28:17
Lance Walker
And yes, there are a lot of things that go wrong regularly and there's a lot of uncertainty still about where we're headed and how we're going to get things done. But overall, I just I love it. I love every day. And so even if it fails, even if there's no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, I would never look back on this journey and be like, I wish I hadn't done that.
01:05:28:22 - 01:05:59:13
Lance Walker
Yeah. And I think that's the biggest thing for me that I had hoped going into this. That's what I wanted. I wanted something that where I really knew that I would love and enjoy every day. And so that's the biggest thing that I've taken away. And along with that has come just more ability to open myself up to even more good, even more of what I want out of life.
01:05:59:13 - 01:06:05:06
Lance Walker
And so I think that's what it's meant to me personally.
01:06:05:08 - 01:06:24:16
Chrissy Walker
I think we have had so many conversations where we're just talking about how fulfilling this has been that I feel so personally fulfilled and passionate about what we're doing. But my client says it almost doesn't matter the outcome because the journey itself is the reward.
01:06:24:18 - 01:06:33:20
Lance Walker
Yeah, and we, you know, we still are at it every day going 100%. We're not going to give it any less. If anything, we give it more.
01:06:33:20 - 01:06:42:11
Chrissy Walker
Well, I think in that way it's like when you're enjoying the journey. Yeah, it's almost like you cannot help. But find success.
01:06:42:12 - 01:07:06:15
Lance Walker
Yeah, we're going to. We'll figure it out. We'll find success. I think another part of what I've learned this year and our partner, Darren, has been a big part of this. Chris he's been a big part of this is just I, I have a hard time. I'm a traditional I've been very much like, I can figure this out, I can solve it, I can get it done and I go inward.
01:07:06:18 - 01:07:25:06
Lance Walker
When there's a big problem, I go inward and then I'm like, I can do this. I can figure this out. And, I'm starting now to go more outward where it's like, okay, there's a big problem. I don't know how to get through this. Instead of just buckling down and getting it done, I'm going to go talk to other people.
01:07:25:08 - 01:07:42:09
Lance Walker
I'm going to see what other ideas I can pull in, what other resources I can pull in. And that's a superpower that Darren has. Chris. He's much more like people oriented than I am. And so working with them has helped me to see that more.
01:07:42:11 - 01:08:05:18
Erik Orton
Well, I think it's such, yeah, huge treasures and I think it's such a powerful place to come from when you're able to say, regardless of how this plays out in the end, we're so glad that we're doing it and we're enjoying it daily. Because you're right, when that is your approach and your feeling about it, guess what happens to your likelihood of success?
01:08:05:18 - 01:08:26:11
Erik Orton
It just it skyrockets. And so and so the fact that the fact that you are so into the journey, I think the results are inevitable, you know, the the the positive results are just it's just a matter of when rather than if.
01:08:26:13 - 01:08:50:05
Emily Orton
Warning, though once you do something that you really love and find fulfilling, it's pretty hard to do any other kind of work. Again, you got to start. So whatever you do, you know what it feels like and you'll be like, okay, well we're only going to do things that we love because you've sort of redefine success like it becomes inclusive, you know?
01:08:50:06 - 01:09:11:11
Lance Walker
And honestly, before we did this, I was like, This is it. Like I'm never I'm never going back. Even before. Yeah, it's like I'm never going to do that again. I'm never going to do that. Hopefully there's a pot of gold at the end of this crappy road. Yeah, but if you remember, this was our retirement plan.
01:09:11:13 - 01:09:12:18
Chrissy Walker
So. Yeah. So that's perfect.
01:09:12:21 - 01:09:37:13
Lance Walker
That's. That's the rest of forever. And I don't know how much we've shared of our, like, bigger vision, but our, our tell us mineral so mineral resource and the idea behind mineral resource is that we are delivering elemental experiences and I got a lot of what elemental experiences are from the book The Power of Moments by Dan and Chip.
01:09:37:13 - 01:09:39:08
Lance Walker
Pete, do you want to go read that book?
01:09:39:08 - 01:09:43:04
Emily Orton
It's amazing and we'll put it in the book.
01:09:43:06 - 01:10:15:16
Lance Walker
yeah. It talks about how you have to man you facture what he calls peak experiences throughout your life, especially after a lot of the built in peak experiences of life. You start having children. And so that's what we want to deliver to people is experiences that are tied to adventure, health and wellness and pull them out of the day to day, pull them out of the grind and let them open their hearts and minds to what could be in their life.
01:10:15:18 - 01:10:38:16
Lance Walker
And and then they can go back and make the changes necessary to to pursue what they really want out of life. And so Jade Jungle Resort is our first mineral, and it's a nod to the Mayan people that lived here. Jade was sacred to them. It was a symbol of of royalty and wealth.
01:10:38:18 - 01:10:43:12
Chrissy Walker
And our our resort is built around a mayan plaza. I don't think we mentioned that.
01:10:43:12 - 01:10:44:07
Emily Orton
Yeah.
01:10:44:09 - 01:10:57:02
Lance Walker
So we were very keen to hear. Yeah, there there remind people that lived here for 300 years and we know a lot about their way of life because of the archeology that's been done.
01:10:57:02 - 01:11:09:03
Chrissy Walker
Here all of our, our rooms are traditional thatched roof cabanas. So you really kind of get a feel for what it might have been like living here as a you know, in the Mayans lives here.
01:11:09:05 - 01:11:09:09
Lance Walker
Yeah.
01:11:09:12 - 01:11:18:10
Erik Orton
And we're going to include links to all this because people have got to check check it out. It's just so beautiful and stunning. So we look forward to sharing it. Keep going.
01:11:18:12 - 01:11:24:16
Lance Walker
So for Mineral, maybe Chrissy could tell you the future of Mineral after Jade.
01:11:24:18 - 01:11:50:09
Chrissy Walker
Yeah. So our our next resort we're planning to build here in Belize. We really touched on this a little bit, would be a beach resort that would be called salt. And then we have a few others that are our find that we've got copper that we're thinking about maybe doing in Utah. We would love to do some that are like carved in the sands sound kind of like Petra That would be sand.
01:11:50:11 - 01:11:56:15
Chrissy Walker
So we have this bigger vision. This is just the start here and we'll just keep.
01:11:56:16 - 01:11:58:13
Lance Walker
So we're never going back.
01:11:58:15 - 01:12:54:17
Emily Orton
To this is our first. You heard it here, and I love what you're saying, that these travel experiences can be transcendent, right? It's not just an Instagram opportunity. It's like really a chance to reset your mind. And yeah, you know, I think I would encourage anyone listening at this resonates for you to go in the links and set up, you know, a visit, go to Belize and see what this is all about and you will be amazed at how your brain and your body will tell you what it is that you really need when you quiet everything else down and just put yourself in a new location because our environment can kind of fix into
01:12:54:17 - 01:13:22:08
Emily Orton
place like our rhythms and what we say we want or value. Yeah, just get into a completely new environment, especially one like this. That's so in nature and so clean, clear and honest, you know, living none of this artificial stuff. And and you will be amazed at what you discover. It it can, it can change the course of your life to be on a happier, more fulfilling path.
01:13:22:08 - 01:13:24:10
Chrissy Walker
To get you through your time here.
01:13:24:12 - 01:13:31:00
Emily Orton
Yeah, yeah. I'm all about this. I want everybody to sign up and go take your whole family.
01:13:31:02 - 01:13:53:12
Chrissy Walker
Yes, It really is a very grounding experience to be here. It's is like nothing I've ever experienced since towering old growth hardwood. It's a primal jungle, so it's fully growth or a fully mature growth cycle. On the jungle, we heat our water by burning kahu nuts that are gathered from the jungle floor. All of our power is from the sun.
01:13:53:12 - 01:14:15:18
Chrissy Walker
We pull our water from the stream. It just you really do kind of feel like you're you are coming and just entering into this rhythm of Mother Earth and nature that, you know, even just a few nights here, it it could feel kind of stark and empty and lifeless when you go away.
01:14:15:20 - 01:14:19:12
Lance Walker
So we don't have wi fi in our rooms and.
01:14:19:14 - 01:14:20:22
Chrissy Walker
We have wi fi in the main.
01:14:20:22 - 01:14:43:08
Lance Walker
We have Wi-Fi in the main lodge, but we don't have it in our rooms. And it's it's really interesting the reactions that we get from people because a lot of it like that's part of our why is to help people disconnect help them you know, have a conversation with whoever they're in bed with and like really just be there.
01:14:43:10 - 01:15:05:21
Lance Walker
And even for us, the first time coming here, there wasn't Wi-Fi in the rooms and we even stayed in one. We several times stayed in the Cabanas. And it changes our behavior. It changes what we do because we're not connected. We're not on a device. Whatever. We're we're just there with family. And we've gotten pressure to change that.
01:15:05:21 - 01:15:07:18
Lance Walker
And I just don't want to.
01:15:07:19 - 01:15:33:06
Emily Orton
Yeah, no, it's a it's a major selling to me. And I would also say for anyone listening, when you're looking at an experience like this, just something that I've discovered is that you might be looking at it and saying, well it's this many days and you're kind of weighing out the costs when you're an experience like this every day feels like at least three days.
01:15:33:10 - 01:15:50:00
Emily Orton
So if you're saying, well, we could only go for three days, that's like taking a nine week trip or a nine day trip, a nine day trip like it, you get so much value out of it because time expands when you go into situations like this so.
01:15:50:00 - 01:15:51:03
Chrissy Walker
So to.
01:15:51:05 - 01:15:52:22
Emily Orton
Calculate that.
01:15:53:00 - 01:15:54:18
Chrissy Walker
I love that you said time.
01:15:54:20 - 01:16:08:00
Erik Orton
We experience the same thing when we take people sailing, both the lack of internet and the connection with the elements and the sun and and just being in a new environment. So everything you're saying makes perfect sense to us.
01:16:08:02 - 01:16:15:15
Chrissy Walker
Yes, I'm really does expand. I love that you said that. That has been our experience all the way. It really does.
01:16:15:17 - 01:16:42:02
Emily Orton
Yeah. In all the best ways. Yes. Yes. You do get more than 24 hours when you come to Jade Resort. I love it. Wow, this has been such a satisfying conversation for us. I you've given so many gems and just like good insights and information that people can really like. Mull over and grab the jade stones. Yeah.
01:16:42:02 - 01:17:03:08
Emily Orton
If they're if it yeah this will resonate with a with a lot of people and they'll know this is this is for me. I do want to ask you like what would be the advice that you would give someone because they might be thinking of a completely different idea or a completely different sort of path, but they don't really have a map to get there.
01:17:03:10 - 01:17:15:11
Emily Orton
What advice would you you've been in that situation, so what advice would you give to that person who's like, I want to do this big thing that feels beyond me and I don't know how to do it.
01:17:15:12 - 01:17:46:12
Chrissy Walker
I think I already I already touched on this and to me it really was completely transformative to go deep inside of myself and realize believe that I was worthy of having the life I wanted and chasing the dreams that I wanted, that I it was okay for me to have that. You know, I think sometimes we don't believe we deserve to have the life that we've always dreamed of.
01:17:46:12 - 01:18:14:03
Chrissy Walker
But I don't know, maybe I'm too simplistic in how I view it, but I really do think for me it all stems back to that believing you're worthy and capable. And if you can really get to a place where you believe you're worthy and capable, then the rest will just come effortlessly. When you have that foundation to work off of, then then you will have the courage to go and do what you need to do.
01:18:14:05 - 01:18:38:17
Erik Orton
Can I say something that I think is important about that, Kristie, is that it's not enough to feel worthy and it's not enough to just feel capable. I think. Yeah, I think those two together are really powerful because one being capable requires that you're going to have to act, you're going to have to engage, but also being worthy, you're going to have to receive.
01:18:38:19 - 01:18:48:11
Erik Orton
And you don't just sit and wait it to come to you and you don't just act. It's it's the two of those together that I think is really, really sublime. You described.
01:18:48:12 - 01:19:37:22
Lance Walker
Yeah, Yeah. And I don't know, as far as advice, I think I think aside from the mental work you have to do to just prepare yourself, it, it's, it takes a community to, to get things done. And so I would say just think of a few people that you like trust and respect and that, you know, would believe in you and have your best interests at heart and schedule some time to just kind of share and be vulnerable about your big idea and ask some advice, get some ideas.
01:19:38:00 - 01:20:05:09
Lance Walker
And I specifically say, look for someone like that because I've shared big ideas with people that don't fit that description and they can be detractors. So choose the right people that you know are going to kind of believe in you and help you along your way. It doesn't mean that they won't give you advice to maybe think about it differently or steer you slightly in a different direction.
01:20:05:11 - 01:20:17:19
Lance Walker
But they're going to believe in you and champion you and answer that question like, how could I make it happen? Right. I love the name of the podcast. What could go right? I can help you. I love see what could go right.
01:20:17:21 - 01:20:31:12
Chrissy Walker
Well, and I would add to mine as well be willing to fail and be willing to fail again and again and again. But shift your thinking to see those failures as progress to what you really want.
01:20:31:14 - 01:20:33:04
Lance Walker
That's just learning.
01:20:33:06 - 01:20:44:23
Emily Orton
I love it. I think everyone's going to want to know where where can they find you? Where can they follow you? You're in. You're showing up in lots of places and. Yeah. And how can they come visit you?
01:20:45:01 - 01:21:06:21
Chrissy Walker
Yeah. So our, our resort is Jade Jungle resort dot com is our website and we're on social media at Jade Jungle Resort and then we also have a YouTube channel that is at chasing dot wild underscore So Chasing Wild is the name of our YouTube and we have an Instagram account for that as well.
01:21:06:23 - 01:21:15:20
Lance Walker
And the Chasing Wild brand kind of follows more of our family. And then Jade Jungle Resort is more of the business side.
01:21:15:22 - 01:21:37:20
Erik Orton
And it's all beautiful and stunning and delightful. It's really great to see you and your kids and how you're out in the waterholes playing with the animals and progress on the resort as you make improvements, because I know it's not done yet. You guys are just warming up. I think. And so it's been a delight to follow you there and keep in touch.
01:21:37:20 - 01:21:49:21
Erik Orton
So, you know, please do check out Crissy and Lands and the Jade Jungle Resort because it's and we look forward to coming down and paying you guys a visit sometime in the not too distant future.
01:21:49:23 - 01:22:05:09
Emily Orton
Yes, we have had this idea actually for a few years that we keep Eric, because, like, what if we went to Belize for Christmas? Then we always call this plan Belize Navidad. And we're like, maybe it's time. Maybe it's time for Belize Navidad.
01:22:05:11 - 01:22:14:02
Erik Orton
Yeah, we can't pass up a good pun, you know, Love it, but there's good sailing there. We're going to have to. We're actually like a jungle resort sailing combo or.
01:22:14:04 - 01:22:14:23
Emily Orton
Team up with you guys.
01:22:14:23 - 01:22:16:05
Erik Orton
We're going to do a trip there. And this.
01:22:16:05 - 01:22:16:20
Lance Walker
Pleases.
01:22:16:20 - 01:22:32:03
Emily Orton
Me. This has been so delightful. Thank you so much for sharing your little slice of paradise with us today and all the treasures that you found that you really like dug in and and done the good work.
01:22:32:05 - 01:22:33:12
Chrissy Walker
Thank you so much, you guys.
01:22:33:12 - 01:22:37:00
Erik Orton
Yeah, Thanks for being on you both, Christy and Lance. Thank you.
01:22:37:01 - 01:22:45:18
Chrissy Walker
It's so wonderful to meet. You know, you just get it. And it's it's so fun to have spent this time talking with you guys.
01:22:45:20 - 01:22:53:22
Emily Orton
Well, and hopefully everyone who's listening will say like, yeah, maybe it's okay for me to want what I want and go for it. Yeah. Yes.
01:22:54:00 - 01:22:56:14
Erik Orton
And how do we end Emily?
01:22:56:16 - 01:22:58:20
Emily Orton
What could go right?
01:22:58:22 - 01:23:16:10
Erik Orton
That's the question. Hey, it's Eric. If you want to go sailing with us this year, here's how that works. We have a few more trips planned for this year. There's two ways that you can come sailing with us. One is you can book by the cabin, and two, you can just get a group of 6 to 10 people together.
01:23:16:12 - 01:23:38:17
Erik Orton
Let me know. We'll check our calendars, find a time that works, pick a place that you're excited about that I want to go to and we'll make it happen. So reach out and let me know if you want to get a group together. If you want to book by the cabin, here's you go to the awesome factory dot NYC forward slash sailing 2024 and you can get the rundown on what's happening, how it all works.
01:23:38:23 - 01:23:50:18
Erik Orton
And at the bottom you can schedule a time to chat with me. I'll answer all your other questions and see if we can find a trip that's a match for you. So if you want to get out on the water, go sailing somewhere fun. This year. I would love to join you there. Thanks so much.
